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Vote -1 Vote +1Shawn M
September 3, 2010 at 6:31 am

One of the ways I’ve come up with camoflaging non perishable items. Guns, ammo, tools, etc. Get 3 or 4 pieces of 4″ PCV 8′ to 10′ long. Add a “fake” drain in the basement, using the PCV, Add some elbows for better effect. And anchor these from the backside into the floor or concrete, so its not easily seen. “Anchor” partially in a stud wall, in the basement will make it appear normal also. Once its not easily moveable, and will age with the house, so it looks like its been there for sometime. No one will check it as a storage site. You can even add a “sewer” access for a snake, so that you can access it from time to time, without having to remove the entire thing. Just make sure it looks similiar to your existing construction!!


-2 Vote -1 Vote +1Trent
September 3, 2010 at 10:17 am

Great information and really liked the post by Shawn M as well, regarding the false drain pipes for hidden storage. Brillant!! It gave me other ways to view hiding things in plain site. As for the DC Rally I have a difficult time with Chrisitans stating they were surrounded by like Chrisitans. Although there may have been, Gleen Beck is FAR FROM A CHRISTIAN or PATRIOT. The man has spewed hate and rascist remarks time and time again, prior to this rally. A true Christian would not do this in this manner, and would approach American’s problems in a better way then Glenn Beck has. Food for thought.


+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jim
September 3, 2010 at 11:53 am

Trent, perhaps you could share some of the “hate and racist remarks” that Beck has “spewed.” I don’t mean “somebody told me that Glenn Beck said…”. I mean provable (YouTube-type) quotes. Or is it that something you don’t agree with must be “hate speech?”


+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rick
September 4, 2010 at 1:06 am

with all due respect. It is obvious that you’ve not followed Glen Beck over the years and really have no idea what you are talking about. He is a man of honor. The terms “racist” and ” hate-monger” are something you obviously picked up from your liberal media. No one from the left has argued successfully, you know, with facts, figures etc. about what Beck is /has said. The left, of which you are obviously a “member” only deals in personal attacks and emotion, while rarely persuing the truth. I suspect Mr. Beck has more patriotism “in his little finger “than you possess, period.


Vote -1 Vote +1Big Daddy B
September 5, 2010 at 8:57 pm

Watch 5 Glenn Beck shows and then see if you feel the same. I think you will be surprised. This man loves this country.


Vote -1 Vote +1Wanda
September 6, 2010 at 11:25 am

Trent, I think most of us here are believers in Christ, or at least lean that way, and I agree with the person that suggested that you watch 5 of Glenn’s shows, then get back to us. He is a little sarcastic, sometimes, with his retoric, but I believe he is very sincere.
He is an excellent teacher.

Read your own history. You’ll find that he does his research.


-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Alan One
September 6, 2010 at 10:39 pm

Trent, I agree with you. Beck is a demagogue, and not a patriot or christian. I have watched many of his shows over the years, and am pretty much always appalled with his stringing together unrelated thoughts and pretending like they mean something. He is out for himself, and is out for glory. He is not the kind of christian Christ would likely recognize or respect. Those of you who disagree certainly have the right to do so, but I fear you are doing so because you want to believe he is honorable. Anyone who dresses up like a totalitarian trooper makes me ill. He does it to attract attention and to make money. That is, in and of itself, NOT christian.


-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Alan One
September 6, 2010 at 11:02 pm

And don’t call me a liberal or some other insult because I don’t trust Beck. I am a decorated, punctured by bullets veteran, and I believe the constitution is a great document. That is why I went to Vietnam rather than Canada. I really like the bill of rights; you know, the one that says we have the right to freedom of speech, and I also like the sixth section of the constitution that specifically says there is NOT to be a religious test to hold political office. Too many patriots forget to read that little document (the Constitution). The only uniform I have ever seen Beck wear is that perverted nasty Nazi one. Uck, Uck, Uck.


+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Lorenzo Poe
September 8, 2010 at 12:04 pm

Hmmm, thought that it was a Soviet Block uniform. Did some of those holes get you in the eyes?


Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
September 7, 2010 at 12:21 pm

I seem to remember “judge not lest ye be judged” as being part of being a Christian.

I think racism and bigotry are often in the eyes of the beholder.

Many on the left call people racists, homophobic, sexist, or misogynist, merely because others disagree with them. There have been many instances where the left cried wolf, that latter turned out to be false. So I always take such cries with a grain of salt now-a-days.


Vote -1 Vote +1Trent
September 3, 2010 at 10:20 am

Thanks for the drain pipe idea! Brillant and well thought out. Gave me some other ideas on how to potentially hide things from would-be theives. It’s people who think outside of the box like you that will make through the coming depression. Thanks again.


Vote -1 Vote +1dan
September 10, 2010 at 11:32 am

take out a panel of sheet rock in your closet or whereever using a razor knife or saw . place your weapons in the wall then replace the sheetrock panel , retape the seam and re-mud. i don’t think that an intruder is going to tear out your walls looking for food or weapons . you can also purchase an in the floor safe ( 81/2 ” )in diameter. they come 12″ deep , 18″ deep but that’s not important because you are going to cut the bottom out anyway. bust out the concrete place the safe body into the ground after you’ve removed the dirt to a depth that is deep enough to accept the length of your rifle. if it’s in an area that is carpeted you’ll be able to coceal any notion there could be an in -the floor safe because the carpet that you’ve cut out where you’ve dug the hole will be laid back over the surface . don’t forget to get some quick-crete to mix and pour around the safe body. by the way i sell safes and you can order one by e-mailing me @ safecracker15@bellsouth.net . ball park figure $600.00


Vote -1 Vote +1BlindSquirl
September 3, 2010 at 6:48 am

Great post!!

It’s refreshing to see someone with a more realistic attitude as opposed to the “hunker down in my bunker with my AR and my case of MREs” crowd.

Most people don’t realize that being prepared can actually lead to a better quality of life, even without having some kind of crisis occur.

You can’t get eggs any fresher than mine, my vegetables are organic and have no pesticides. Most people couldn’t afford to buy those things and I get them for almost nothing, most of my cost is in the time spent “preparing”. Almost every morning I make a latte with fresh, raw, full cream goat milk that you can’t buy for any price.

It’s high time that we get back to our roots and stop relying so heavilly on everyone else for our daily needs. And there’s no need to live a life of poverty while doing so.


Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
September 3, 2010 at 6:54 am

Thanks for the suggestions David. You’ve given me some great ideas, and your course is definitely worth the cost. Even though I’ve been studying survival and preparedness since the early 80’s when I was a teenager, your course does have great value.

We are only hobby farmers at the moment, but we are canning any excess production from the garden. The garden is definitely a supplement to our normal routine and preparations.

Never thought of actually planting weeds to hide the more valuable vegetables. There are several bushes, and flowers that we could plant to hide a garden. Some creative landscaping, and we could probably hide the chicken coop as well. We’d probably want to repaint or cover the coop too, as it’s bright yellow at the moment.

The chickens we have provide more then enough eggs for us, and we’ve been selling/giving the surplus to friends, family, and co-workers. They are easy to take care of, don’t stink to much, and don’t make to much noise. They could definitely be moved inside if things got rough.

Thanks and take care,


Vote -1 Vote +1Alan Mullins
September 3, 2010 at 7:43 am

This is great stuff. I really appreciate what you do…………Thanks again Alan


Vote -1 Vote +1Wesley Hamilton
September 3, 2010 at 7:57 am

Good ideas given.

What can you advise for a fenced in Mobile Home in an urban setting in a high crime neighborhood?

Structural hardening is almost impossible but I have three chuhuwa watch dogs.



Vote -1 Vote +1caroline
September 3, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Buy some thin wall paneling that matches yours, or similar wall product and make a fake wall. Use the wall furthest from the walking/entry area, away from closets, etc and place a dresser in front of it. Cover your access panel with a long, cheap, upright mirror. Theives usually ransack dressers, but rarely move them to tear down the wall and they always love to see themselves in the mirror.


Vote -1 Vote +1Tom K.
September 6, 2010 at 11:04 am

Another thing nice about the mirror, you can place a spy camera behind it and then show the police the video of the person that robbed you!


Vote -1 Vote +1Shawn M
September 4, 2010 at 5:42 am

One place you can look at is along the “kick plate” on your kitchen cabinets. That 3″ to 4″ area for your toes to fit under a cabinet. You pull those off and what do you have? Usually dead air space. Consider putting in a sliding “drawer”, and have it attach with screws at the top, VERY hard to see unless someone gets on their hands and knees to look. Not quick access, and not real “thick” but anything that would fit in a space 3 to 4 inches high could be hidden very well. And you can have multiples throughout the house. kitchen, bathrooms, etc. Anyplace with a built in cabinet, or bookcase. Just a thought.
Shawn M.


Vote -1 Vote +1Gene
September 3, 2010 at 8:07 am

We were very fortunate to have attended Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally in Washington DC. We were surrounded by like-minded patriotic Americans who had, like us, traveled far to attend. One of the many observations was when people passed you they looked you in the eye and either nodded their head or smiled knowingly…that they were just like us…proud to be God loving Americans. When a V-formation of geese flew the length of the reflection pool…those around us gasped knowing that they were participating in something very very special. God Bless the USA. On another note: Thanks to David Morris for providing informative training.


-2 Vote -1 Vote +1Alan One
September 6, 2010 at 10:43 pm

Those geese do that all of the time. You should have stayed another day to watch them again. This is not evidence that Beck is tied nto the divine. He dresses up like a Nazi. That is not a good thing.

“I command the sun to rise,” said the king. His people were astonished that the sun rose. They were stupid, but astonished.


Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
September 7, 2010 at 12:23 pm

We often forget the Glory of God’s creation and it’s moments like that, which remind us of it.


Vote -1 Vote +1Mark
September 3, 2010 at 8:23 am

HI, thanks for the great article. The part that struck me was the discussion if someone really wanted your house and belongings. I remembered the stories from Katrina where folk did hard entries into homes. I forgot about the amonia and bleach mix. I appreciate the information on the “hiding in plain sight” you provide. I look forward to all the great additional advice from all the other users on this posting. Again thanks, Mark


+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Ernest
September 3, 2010 at 4:25 pm

We stick with native plants; wild grapes, raspberries, and others that blend in. We plant food in small clumps among the landscape. We grow bamboo for building materials trellis and that sort of thing now. Later more nasty thing come to mind if needed. We have been buying a little extra each month for the past year and a half of foods that will last long term and rotate our stock. We have found on of the buyer’s clubs has caned white meat chicken that last 3 to 4 years. One can will make a good topping for a salad or two. We look for items like this and buy a little more than we are going to eat so we accumulate a little at a time. We have changed or eating habits as a result we have gotten to used to having soup for one meal a day and have saved money and lost weight. Win win situation. I found some kind of aloe looking sticker bush at a plant nursery that had gone wild. I offered the owner $20 for a huge pot of it, he was glad to sell it. I brought it home and started it growing around the parameter of or half acre and it is doing great. We call it the Godzilla bush because it’s a killer. We are a long way from secure but we are working on it all the time. Thanks for all the advice I have payed my money waiting to take my turn.


-2 Vote -1 Vote +1Alan One
September 6, 2010 at 10:55 pm

A sheet of plywood thrown over the plants makes it easy to stroll through, and any determined assailant will think of it quickly . Getting through thorned plants and the like is easier than you think. Non-native plants may well be attention getting if they look like a fortress. Be cautious about looking too different from the rest of the neighborhood. Noxious plants might get our government “friends” involved, too. Bad people are not necessarily stupid people, just like good people may be not as bright as you would prefer.


Vote -1 Vote +1Ed
September 3, 2010 at 9:08 am

incredibly moving…….we often wept with tears of joy; the Love for/of GOD was amazing. The fellowship we ALL felt was far beyond our ken….Beck “seems” to be coming to the proper place.

We CAN overcome!


Vote -1 Vote +1Dr. Leopnard M. Breure, PhD
September 3, 2010 at 9:35 am


Keep up the OUTSTANDING WORK. Really learned alot from your Survive in Place information. The course and the newsletters are both great. Thanks for the effort!



Vote -1 Vote +1Mittens
September 3, 2010 at 11:18 am


Good infomation as usual. I’ve thought about the drain thing, but I’m not that great at mech. stuff. Yes, a few points off for that. I have my garden with raspberries on one side and planted blackberries in the front yard on my small lot. Not many places to hide my garden. I have a five foot fence around my place, cameras, stickers, and lead. Being single and living alone I feel very vulnerable and I run these senerios in my mind and wish my neighbors would wake up. I have to keep my eyes and ears open and when it gets bad take care of business. It is sad to think this is main stream talk for us.


Vote -1 Vote +1Shawn M
September 4, 2010 at 5:50 am

NONE of us will get through this alone. Consider having a neighbor build it in for you, if you do some canning for them? Or teach them to do canning if you know how.

Learn to trade the skills you DO have, for those you don’t!! None of us can know it all!! I’d rather be with a group of 5 people, committed to the groups survival, that EACH had their own “specialty”, than a group of 20 that didn’t want to do anything, or depend on the govt to do it. That everyone knew what everyone else did.

Which group do you think has a better chance at survival?? If you don’t know how to do something, and no one is around to ask……then get a “basics” book from your library. Woodworking, gardening, emergency survival, gun smithing, etc etc.

Every thing you learn, is something else they CAN’T take away from you!!!

Good Luck!
Shawn M


Vote -1 Vote +1Mr. Eric
September 3, 2010 at 12:27 pm

I love reading all these posts! With reference to hiding in plane sight, one might wish to evaluate the utility of spraypainting the FEMA circle X on your houses and in your neighborhoods after an event occurs. There are pros and cons for this; among to pros, you will buy time that the officials will leave you alone long enough as not to confiscate one’s means of survival or for one to re-arrange the storage situation in the house/yard…etc. Among the cons, once it is found the markings on the houses are hoaxes, the authorities may pay more attention to your neighborhood. Of course, these are among many examples. What is going on on the ground is obviously ours to judge at that time. See some of the Katrina videos for the correct format and color of spray paint and be flexible.

With reference to the gardens, again, depending on the situation and who is “helping,” airborne surveillance is a consideration. I saw an excellent idea in a previous post that turning your garage into a greenhouse or chicken coop might be worth looking into. Water sources, wells, swimming pools will likely be monitored too by airborne surveillance platforms. Long story short, the threat from above might modify some thinking in one’s OPSEC plans.

Thanks everybody for your posts, I look foward to the exchange of ideas!


Vote -1 Vote +1andrea
September 6, 2010 at 7:44 pm

I saw your comments and would like to know Who is this danger, I didn,t quite understand what you were talking about>


Vote -1 Vote +1Mr. Eric
September 10, 2010 at 3:33 pm

Great question and thanks, Andrea. Who the danger is, as I see it, are those who want what you have or those who wish to remove you from your situation to a situation under “their” control. For instance, my experience in Zimbabwe, East Africa and the Middle East has tangibly shown that thugs will emerge and exploit a chaotic situation to take your wares and do mean things to the common folk. They’ve taken “taxes” and destoyed the possessions and killed those who refused to pay in exchange for their “protection.” Also, my wife spent a few days in a refugee camp as a result of a forced evacuation. She and I agree it won’t happen again in this lifetime. Therefore, my opinion as to the best answer to your question is: WHOM the danger is, is whoever you assess who to be in your scenario assessments of constantly asking the questions “what if?” That “who” will bring on additional problems or solutions to consider in planning scenarios. Hope that was helpful.


Vote -1 Vote +1Tim
September 3, 2010 at 1:55 pm

I have been watching Glenn Beck every day for months and I watched the rally and I have not seen or heard 1 racist remark or 1 hate remark, he says things you don’t agree with so it is hate. The point of the rally is to bring Americans together, to remember our true history and heritage, because if we don’t OUR country will look like MEXICO and then you can CRY about your rights and bla bla bla , but it will be too late then, open your eyes and quit being petty. If you are not going to help, shut up and stay out of the way, anybody who hurts My country is my enemy. The articles are great, I have a big file of your articles and they have helped me allot thank you.


-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Alan One
September 6, 2010 at 11:21 pm

Frankly, our country is going to look like Mexico regardless, as we run out of oil and as coal costs more and more to get out of the ground.

And it is not because of the border violators, though they are wrong… Look to Reagan, to Carter, to Bush 1, to Clinton, to Bush 2 and to Obama. They do us no favors; they do their masters’ biddings. Look to the folks who run the media (hint: they are NOT liberal in their biases).

The good thing about preparing is to put you into a position to do a bit better in the years to come. Things will not get better; they will get worse. Help yourself by learning to learn from whomever can truly help you and your family. You have more in common with that wetback than you think you do.

You would do well to study how poor indigenous folks in poor countries get by. Try talking to that brown skinned Spanish speaking guy. He is doing his best to get by. He has had to deal with evil governments and mean greedy bastids all of his life. He came here because of that french statue in New York harbor

They have a lot to teach me, and I am studying with enthusiasm. I want to live, and to live by the labor of my hands and heart, and my brain, with real honor.

How about you?


Vote -1 Vote +1Kennalea
September 3, 2010 at 2:50 pm

For every honorable person attending Glen Becks Rally, there must have been at least another 25 folks sitting at home who WISHED they were there. I watched it more than once and I saw no hate, nothing that was not positive. Folks who saw something negative about that rally scare me.


Vote -1 Vote +1Jon
September 3, 2010 at 6:42 pm

For all of the people that get the newsletters, still , after going through the course . As they stay current the info still overlaps the course. I love it for that ,because repitition is the mother of all learning. Practice does not make perfect . Practice makes better..


Vote -1 Vote +1Kathy
September 3, 2010 at 7:59 pm

What is you opinion on the 3,000 fema “camps” located at remote places in the USA, and Canada?


Vote -1 Vote +1SL Haynes
September 7, 2010 at 7:13 am

Glenn Beck has shown these FEMA camps to be a hoax. However, in my humble opinion, the camps could become a real possibility when the Schumer Hits The Fan.


Vote -1 Vote +1think4yourself
September 25, 2010 at 8:00 am

Hey Kathy,
I watched the Glenn Beck episode on the ‘fema camps’ & wondered about it myself. If you haven’t been to the Alex Jones website (www.infowars.com) you probably won’t hear the truth about the Fema Camps. Alex Jones specifically addressed the issue that Glenn supposedly resolved. Here is the link you or anyone else who REALLY wants to know the truth about it is; http://www.infowars.com/glenn-becks-lame-attempt-to-debunk-fema-camps/ As much as I like & admire Glenn Beck, it’s really unfortunate that he doesn’t tell the truth on that issue!


Vote -1 Vote +1liz
September 3, 2010 at 8:01 pm

What about S510 the bill that will make it illegal to grow your own food. we not only have to protect ourselves from understadably scared hungry fellow americans, criminal typs, but also our own malevalent government , what about envyouse neighbors, who dont have gardens but know you have one and want their share?


Vote -1 Vote +1andrea
September 6, 2010 at 7:38 pm

What bill is this? Is it in congress right now, or in the works? If this is true, it is the most evil thing this government could ever do, or way up there! please fill us all in on this as soon as you see this message!


Vote -1 Vote +1Bar
September 7, 2010 at 2:58 pm

This bill does NOT forbid you to grow your own food. Don’t listen to rumor, read it yourself!! It Does have a lot of room for abuse. It Does open the door to government and international (UN) intervention of our lives. it Does cater to socialist/ communist noses in our business. It Does increase government control of the sheep.
Ir IS an unnecessary, bulky, expensive, redundant and risky measure. Read it. Understand it. Write your congressman. You can’t complain your representatives don’t hear the common man if the common man doesn’t let themselves be heard.


Vote -1 Vote +1AJ Walton
September 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm

keep up your good work.



Vote -1 Vote +1paul
September 4, 2010 at 11:40 am

“Keith: “We’re in a rural setting, we’ve got chickens and depending on the season, a garden that would make an inviting target.

We’re currently in the process of hardening the house proper, but still have sheds, chicken coop and workshop to keep in mind.”

After thousands of years murdering each other, they have moved their yards to the roofs. so that as they ‘harden the house’ they protect the live stock,etc.
Hardly progress, but survival potential to exist.

No hate here. Just an ocservation


Vote -1 Vote +1Marcia B
September 4, 2010 at 10:22 pm

I also live in a mobile home. I can pull of the outside of my garden tub (had to for repairs). A lot of stuff will fit there. Also there is no wall between cabinet and drawers in my kitchen, so I can slide stuff under the bottom of the cabinet from underneath the bottom drawer. How about underneath dressers and other furniture – most of it is not solid on the bottom and also most of it is too heavy for someone in a hurry to move. Several of my problems are the dinky exterior doors (my windows are pretty much impossible to enter), most of one bedroom is full of supplies, and not very much storage space in the house, period. But I am plugging along. I like the pvc pipe idea, but can’t think where it would work in here. Still thinking, though.

I watched the Restoring Honor Rally on Facebook and the Friday night at the Kennedy Center also. I have at least 30 friends who went to the Rally. It was great, it was peaceful, it was full of people of different backgrounds but like patriotism and love of country. We need lots of Americans praying for the country, the leaders, and the people, you know, like when leaders asked for prayer in the past in times of trouble.

Thanks, David, for your info.


Vote -1 Vote +1Shawn M
September 6, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Marcia…if you’re mobile home is on a foundation or up on blocks. One thing you can consider is having a horizontal PCV pipe attached underneith your home. Complete with a bend that puts it into the ground. Unless someone searching also happens to be a plumber, they’re unlikely to realize its false.

You could also consider a “trapdoor”, bathroom, or bedroom, so that you could get under your house incase of a breakin. Doesn’t sound as if you have many ways to get out. Just have 2 brackets attached to the door, that lifts up. Then underneith have a 2×4 or bar that will slide into the brackets so that you can basically “lock” your door from below. This will also give you access to your pipe, if you want to keep it “private”. Good Luck!

Shawn M.


Vote -1 Vote +1andrea
September 6, 2010 at 7:20 pm

I have lived in mobile homes and know how hard it is to find storage . I was thinking about a false wall if you have an end bedroom, or if not, a wall in some other room. If it was shallow enough, who would notice? The looters would take a quick look around most likely. You would have to figure out a hidden door of some kind, but I am sure it is doable. Did you see the comment about the mirror door above?


Vote -1 Vote +1Dan
September 4, 2010 at 10:56 pm

Here’s a suggestion for hiding stuff (but it only works for homes with forced air heating systems and a basement). Look at your return air ducts. Usually there are dead end runs with a sheetmetal blank off plate and two sliding retainer strips. The retainer strips are easily slid off and the sheetmetal end plate drops off revealing a large, square storage area at the end of the duct. Especially good for long barrel firearms. The blank off plate is quickly replaced and the sliding strips return. I wouldn’t put an enormous weight in there but I know the weight of a rifle or two and a few hundred rounds is not a problem. The return air ducts do not see the heat like the supply ducts, nor the humidity if you have whole-house humidifiers.


Vote -1 Vote +1Marcia
September 5, 2010 at 9:45 am

Thanks David for addressing this topic. I too have wondered how to “hide” supplies. Here is my question though: If you have been gathering supplies for awhile, food, water, clothing, etc. the amount of things gets to be pretty big. We have stored in large plastic bins in the basement so how do you hide a big quantity of things? Not much would fit in a 4″ pipe for example. Cans of dehydrated food for example are not small and we have lots of them. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Vote -1 Vote +1Shawn M
September 6, 2010 at 1:09 pm


How about taking down one side of a 2×4 interior wall. Fill this with cans, jars, bags, anything that will fit. Add shelves (a cross 2×4) as needed. Then replace the drywall, or panelling.

In a corner of a room, ESPECIALLY, if you have a wood burning stove. Make a vertical “soffit” complete with a pipe attached to the outside. On the inside, it can be big enough to stack #10 cans from floor to ceiling, then enclose it, and paint.

NEVER hide everything you have, especially if others know you have it…leave out the “bait and switch”……let them show up, get a few cans of what you don’t want, thinking its all you have left………and leave.

Make a “Lazy boy” chair, that doesn’t extend out, but the frame goes all the way to the floor, Under the seat will be a HUGE area for hiding stuff.

One thing I like to do, is when I walk into a new room, one I haven’t seen before, I think, if I was going to break into here, what do I see??……..Then look again at what you DON’T see!!! You want to create hiding places that you don’t see.

Good Luck!
Shawn M


Vote -1 Vote +1anita
January 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm

If you store your supplies in unmarked cardboard boxes, write on the box, baby clothes, books, Christmas lights, cleaning rags, ect… That would be another way of hiding things in plain sight.


Vote -1 Vote +1Chris de Vidal
September 6, 2010 at 2:15 pm

I’ve pondered taking ordinary vegetables and spreading into the woods like the marijuana growers; who would recognize a potato plant growing in the woods?? None of the “golden horde,” I assure you!

And the inverse is possible: Find wild edibles that people wouldn’t recognize, and plant (not in neat rows) in your local garden with permaculture principles. The “golden horde” would pass your garden straight by, and you’d be growing *very* sturdy plants which have had thousands of years of breeding for survival conditions.

That covers the somewhat-recognizable domestic vegetables and hardly-recognizable wild vegetables. The highly-recognizable varieties will be trickiest but that’s only a fraction. Couple of thoughts:
1. Build a thick “fence” of non-recognizables up front and hide the more obvious ones behind. From the road it’d all just look like a mess of weeds. Hopefully!
2. Grow indoors, like marijuana growers (see a trend here? Soon growing food will need to be just as secretive!)
3. Choose less-recognizable varieties of similar veggies. For example, try purple tomatoes. The “golden horde” may think they’ve discovered some new poisonous plant and leave it alone. 🙂


Vote -1 Vote +1TJ Jackson
September 6, 2010 at 8:50 pm

Thanks for the good info. I was a cabinet maker for many years and offered a “concealment cabinet” as an option. Basically it utilizes the space under a base cabinet that is usually wasted. I designed it with a flat panel with a finger hole to access the space. If done right, the panel is almost invisible and just cover it with a few boxes of cereal and no one would think to look. I don’t know how hard it would be to retrofit a space like that but it would be worth your while.
I also designed and built my own home and you can bet that it has a few interesting concealed areas. When I built my shop, I went all out and built a very well concealed two rooms under the building. The second room is through a concealed entrance from the first room. A hiding place within a hiding place. I have been preparing for the upcoming problems for over 30 years. In college I got introduced to para-paychology and metaphysics. It all seemed crazy but the events that were predicted are coming through. Glad I took the time to educate myself and then acted on the knowledge. Good luck to all of you, you have no idea where all of this will end. It is not going to be pretty but the future belongs to the prepared.


Vote -1 Vote +1SHTFblog
September 7, 2010 at 6:56 am

I built a new survival garden this year. One of the first things I did was plant a few evergreen trees on the north side of the garden to help shield it from the road. After a few years the trees will thicken up and help the garden remain hidden (at least from people driving by).


Vote -1 Vote +1Marcia
September 7, 2010 at 11:25 am

Thanks Shawn! You have given me some great ideas! Time to build some hiding. Thanks to everyone and all their input. This is so much wonderful information.


Vote -1 Vote +1Chuck
September 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm

Consider planting a row of screening trees/bushes between your garden and the line of sight from the street. For example, leyland cypress trees are hardy, fast growing evergreen trees that can provide year round screening.


Vote -1 Vote +1Dave W.
September 8, 2010 at 1:35 pm

When I come down to people getting hungry,and start looting.You should have moved on by then.You all need a plan B.When your hose is no longer safe to stay in.I have mine in place.I have a small groop of people,and a place we can get to quick.This is our rally point.It has food,water,heat,ammo,beds,heath kits,and it has high security.IT’S A HEAVY STEAL BUILDING.Any one that trys to get in will be met with deadly force.If me and my crew need to do some looting,we will be armed.I will be looking for the easy target.I’m not into taking food from others that need it.I want the stuff people left behind.I’m vary good at hunting,fishing,and finding things that other have over looked.
We also have a plan C.This is for vary long term.If the world is not going to be normal ever again.I’m not telling any one about plan C.


Vote -1 Vote +1MntGrl
September 9, 2010 at 12:33 am

I have a very long interior hallway. I removed the dry wall and installed shelves between the studs. This space isn’t deep, but floor to ceiling and the whole length of the hall, it holds a LOT of canned and jarred foods. I replaced the drywall with “invisible doors” that look like bead-board paneling. (I know, so 1070’s) It must have doors so you can get at your stuff to use and rotate.
For those in really tiny places and no storage space, just give in and rent a climate controlled commercial storage. Yes, it’s not right there at home, but it’s safe if you have a house fire or armed invasion. Just be sure to package everything vermin proof. These places may have bugs and mice.


Vote -1 Vote +1An American Woman
October 23, 2010 at 10:01 pm

Above–“What about S510 the bill that will make it illegal to grow your own food?” This is being voted on in congress real soon. My state senators (say it’s being talked about) A lot in congress. It does open the door for the government to come in and trash/rip up your personal gardens and or fine you a lot of money for doing it. They fined a Georgia man A few months back over ($5 grand) for growing and giving away food. http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/code-enforcement-busybodies-fine-georgia/?camp=syndication&medium=portals&from=yahoo http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/14/georgia-man-fined-5000-for-growing-vegetables/ This law doesn’t threaten people (right away) but it does put citizens- in harm’s way (further down) the road. Once (the government) implements this bill/the Social Gulag—this bill can be twisted enough (to legally mass murder) millions of us… It’s part of the Clowered & Piven & Soros plan… Just look at past histories of Russia, Germany, Zimbabwe, etc. They all did it before they were turned into a communist or totalitarian government.


Vote -1 Vote +1fat gut
November 12, 2010 at 4:57 pm

I’m not positive what to think honestly. A friend of mine was arguing at me yesterday about something like this, but I have a hard time defending my positions on the spot without preparation.


Vote -1 Vote +1An American Woman
November 27, 2010 at 6:12 pm

How does one cook (for the family) without making it smell (so good) that the neighbors come looking for your food?

There was an article on (using hot water) to cook (rice/beans/spices) overnight in a pan-inside of a Styrofoam/peanut packed cooler that is all taped up (with bubble wrap) to keep it insulated & hot-all night long. Come morning time it’s cooked and the smell stays inside your home. Sorry now I can’t find the article. 🙁

Other possibilities are: SUN DRYING, SUN BAKING, MARINATING/Cold/COOKING (meat) in LIME/LEMON JUICE, FERMENTATION COOKING. A comment at the bottom of the article–http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090719151153AANZRCp

I had a friend who used to (cold marinate-cook) their deer overnight 1-2 days in the fridge with lemon juice and onions and that would cook the meat-it was real good. Of course it was even better after it was grilled. But if you can’t do that-the marinating was enough so it could be eaten. It’s an idea.


Vote -1 Vote +1Mary
November 28, 2010 at 3:21 pm

I cannot work up any energy for this survival stuff. I’m still exhausted and broke from Y2K. Although I did end up o.k. on the rural Real Estate, made the local Food Bank love me, and had enough toilet paper for 2 years, it was still toooooo much.
BUT after reading these comments, I thought I’d at least look around the place for places to hide stuff.

I removed a big ol’ gas furnace from my kitchen closet last year. I had patched and painted the hole to the air return inside the closet but was too lazy to remove the grill and patch the hall wall. I just pulled off the grill and I was able to put 20 #10 cans of food behind it. It’s all dated 2012. Now if I can remember where I put it, I’ll have a little food. Getting old ‘aint for sissies!


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