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Vote -1 Vote +1stillnakedbullwinkle
July 27, 2010 at 11:50 pm

The pork that was rotting could be used for bait and should not be that difficult to chop off an ear but they that person will have to sanitize their hands some how. Do they have any soap at all? I do not remember.

I was not surprised to see the artist/inventor from california turn out to be the weak link. If I was a betting man, I would have picked that guy over anyone in the group including the women.

Lastly, the negotiation with the three intruders was stupid. What is their to discuss? Get the F out!!! After they slam one of the intruders down, they allow the intruders to keep the provisions given to them? You could tell this group was soft and was up for a wake up call and then a huge hoard comes marching in and they realize now that the three people were on recon mission and probing for information and weaknesses. And, of course being the first episode, you need some good conflict to hook you into the show and it worked. I AM HOOKED.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 28, 2010 at 10:31 am

Not sure if they have soap…or lye to make soap.

I was surprised about the artist too…It just goes to show that attitude is one of the most important assets (or liabilities) that you will have in a survival situation.

Yes…negotiating with the other people was stupid. Two other approaches they could have decided on in advance would have been:

1. Hide all their supplies and tell the recon party they could stay, but they’d have to do a 48 hour quarantine (split from each other and the group) and bring something of value to the group.

2. Take the approach that the 3 people were there to help them and say something to the effect of, “Thank God you’re here! We’re starving. We’ve been trying to catch fish, but haven’t had any luck. Do you have any food you can share?”

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Vote -1 Vote +1stillnakedbullwinkle
July 27, 2010 at 11:51 pm

OH, LASTLY, the group did not work on a warning call or simple signal like, alarm, fire, help, they did not work on an agreed word of all hands on deck.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Reagen
July 28, 2010 at 6:45 am

I wish I could have seen it but I’ll be watching season 1 online today. Thank you for the commentary on the show! I look forward to reading more! 🙂

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1calvin
July 30, 2010 at 7:58 am

I seem to remember that one of the buildings searched they said “had nothing of value“. I noticed that all the aluminum electrical wiring was still in tact. Probably all the copper wires had been taken from most of all the other buildings but the remaining wire can be used very effectively as rope and cable. I used house wiring to keep looters out of a property in the Bahamas after a hurricane. I did this by stringing it back and forth across the broken windows. It acted a lot like a flexible net. Since it flexed it was very difficult to break through and the looters got frustrated and tried another location.

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-1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 1, 2010 at 8:44 pm

Great info, Calvin. Any other tips/tricks from your experience down there?

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bruce
July 30, 2010 at 8:18 am

Although this is just TV, after I pushed the intruder the first time and he kept progressing, he would’ve been unable to leave under his own power. Like you said, don’t just piss him off. Same goes with the big attack. Everyone should’ve had some sort of “bashing club”. At the first sign of attack (pepper spray) beat the crap out of whoever is closest. Post SHTF, if your fighting “fair” you’re losing the fight.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill
July 30, 2010 at 9:01 am

Also a trap would have been a better fisherman than they were, When the strangers came in , real life would probably have been death of persons in home base or marauders or some of both! But hey it’s a tv show ! pretty good for possibly waking some folks up.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Richard K
July 30, 2010 at 9:18 am

When the first three intruders came in, that should have been a wake up call to their lack of security. After they left they should have come up with some way to secure their location or move to a location they could secure… They seem to have enough lumber from other building to board up the windows and secure the front door.

I am sooooo glad this season has more average joes and less “rocket scientists”.

That’s my 2 cents…

Thanks so much

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 1, 2010 at 8:43 pm

Right there with you, Richard…they definitely needed to improve security, but remember that in a situation like this, hiding supplies and avoiding conflict is a good solution too. In this case, they may not have had time to set up good security, but they definitely had time to hide the supplies they had.

If you’re in total breakdown situation, there probably won’t be an EMS system or 911 to call if people on your team get injured or hurt. As a result, you really don’t want to get into a fair fight. If you’ve got superior weapons, superior numbers (at least 2-3 times), or superior fortifications (including personal fortifications like body armor) then it might not be such a big deal to avoid conflict, but in this case they had nothing to gain by fighting…no supplies, no territory, nothing…and they could have avoided the fight if they would have had their supplies hidden and/or had developed an unfair advantage.

David

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Vote -1 Vote +1Ed
August 1, 2010 at 6:28 pm

I too was amazed that after the first group of three intruders, they made “0” efforts toward security! Even if they didn’t have supplies to lose, they have women to protect. My thinking was, they had fuel from the hog truck, and I’m sure bottles are everywhere. With that large court yard and the crowd of people coming, a couple molotov cocktails would have put a halt to things right away!!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 1, 2010 at 8:33 pm

Yes, molotov cocktails would have been quite handy as an area denial tool. I didn’t notice whether or not the truck was gas or diesel, but they would have had some different options, based on which one it was.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Jared Z
August 18, 2010 at 2:11 am

Well, I learned that it is wrong to assume everyone has a basic fighting101 genetically ingrained into them. :/ Just figured people knew how to punch and kick, but after watching the first episode I was kinda disappointed one of the guys didn’t bust out into a boxing or martial arts frenzy, or even pick up a pipe as a beat-stick (natural instinct). Takes only one solid punch to knock someone down especially if the opponent is not a practiced fighter as was the mob, x15 epic punches in that situation would be a miracle i will admit if you add in the pepper spray.

FYI head-hugging is not an effective martial arts move to defeat someone, side effects equal irritation and sudden bursts of anger, bad grappling101.

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Vote -1 Vote +1john
August 3, 2010 at 12:29 pm

it is a tv show but it gets u thinking what else do i need? the big thing is the ability to defend yourself with long guns, shot guns and side arms inorder to defend yourself like and all the ammo that u can handle and carry thats is the subject that cant ignore and cant be taboo. i am very prepaired in this area and most people are not even thinking about getting ready they think the govt will help. the best example is katrina and if u think the govt will save u u are either misgided nieve or just plain dumb or dont care with that have a good day

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm

One thing that nobody mentioned was that they didn’t eat the snake that they killed. It looked like good eating to me 🙂

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Vote -1 Vote +1Mike
August 5, 2010 at 7:21 am

For communication would cb radio be a good back up if cell and land line phones go down.

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Vote -1 Vote +1eric
August 26, 2010 at 5:33 pm

You know a good counter to the mob would probly be to act like you got the nuclear flu, just a splash o’ water cross the face, a coughing fit, and asking, no, yelling for some help will probly scatter the mob up good or at least make the mob have second guesses about mixing it up. I dont know, thats just my two cents anyways

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Vote -1 Vote +1ray
September 16, 2011 at 11:30 am

if you don’t have lye you can make it from ashes of hardwoods.

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Vote -1 Vote +1bountyhunter3
November 4, 2011 at 5:20 pm

The quarintine was totally ignored in episode 1

http://i216.photobucket.com/al…50/vlcsnap-11381.jpg

The abduction was silly,at best.

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/17219151201/m/44219705801

The pepper spray scene was done by writers who knew nothing about pepper spray.

http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/17219151201/m/27519216801

The whole colony 2 was a disaster.. These colonists would be dead at the end of episode 1.

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