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Vote -1 Vote +1ahrcanum
July 1, 2010 at 12:09 pm

A great summary of the what if’s and sort of’s. May I add that the EPA is setting up decontamination centers/stations for Florida beachgoers in the event they get sick. More here, ***URL REMOVED BECAUSE IT WAS ANOTHER HOAX*** Perhaps those evacuation plans are in case they nuke the leak or swine flu returns!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 2, 2010 at 10:26 am

As a note, I have not been able to validate this yet.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 2, 2010 at 10:40 am

Here is the update on this…it’s another hoax!!! After speaking with the Escambia health department a few minutes ago, I found out that Escambia County has set up 24 “cleaning stations” on Pensacola Beach where people can rinse themselves off with a hose if they get oil/tar on their hands/feet. The EPA had NO involvement and there are NO “decontamination” stations.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 1, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Vote -1 Vote +1Raechel
July 1, 2010 at 1:57 pm

I live in South Florida, and I’m evacuating the state July 15th and will watch the disaster unfold far, far away….I have myself and my dog to protect, couldn’t imagine having to protect a family!!! God bless us all… R & Hunter

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 1, 2010 at 3:04 pm

Raechel,

Congratulations on taking action on what has to be a heart-wrenching decision. My prayers are with you. Stay safe, whether you head North OR South :)

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 1, 2010 at 5:30 pm

This was just forwarded to me from Dr. Alberto Mestas, Associate Professor of Environmental Sciences & Physical Oceanography at Texas A&M, Corpus Christi

“Yes, crude oil, which is a mixture of multiple carbon compounds, can evaporate (change from liquid to gas phase) at ambient temperatures. Indeed evaporation is an important mechanism for the decay of an oil spill in the marine environment.

Different hydrocarbons have different “ability” to evaporate depending on different factors such as chemical composition, ambient temperature, wind speed, etc. I do not know much about the fate of the hydrocarbons once they are in the atmosphere (in a gas form) since atmospheric chemistry is not my area of expertise.

However, I would very surprised if the atmosphere can recombine multiple hydrocarbons and convert them back from gas to liquid so that it could precipitate back to land as some sort of compound resembling the original crude oil from the Gulf of Mexico mixed with rainfall. That is what the narrator in the video was claiming. There are other more likely sources for oil on the ground that would need to be ruled out before trying to attribute it to oil form the Gulf from the current spill.

Furthermore, phase changes are very effective in separating chemical compounds. For example, when water evaporates from the ocean leaves behind all other compounds that where previously dissolved in it (e.g. salt) and only pure water evaporates.

Clouds are formed by the condensation of the water vapor which has been transported from the source region by the winds. In turn, rain is formed when the cloud droplets precipitate back to land. Although, condensation turns back pure water from gas to liquid form, this pure liquid water can combine with other chemicals before or during precipitation.

Evidence of that is that rainfall is generally acidic (Ph<7) compared to pure water which is neutral (Ph=7). Thus, it seems to me that one cannot disregard the possibility of some of the oil compounds released in the Gulf finding their way back to the surface in a similar fashion. The Gulf of Mexico is a main source of water for the northern Gulf and central US during summer so if the oil where to follow the regional water cycle then those areas (central US, northern Gulf) would be vulnerable.”

Alberto

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Vote -1 Vote +1Scott
July 2, 2010 at 10:15 am

David,

Thanks for digging into this. There are so many varying opinions flying around cyber-world, all with seemingly scientific support them no less, it is really hard to discern the truth. At the end of the day, what you said makes the most sense, “…strike while the iron’s hot and GET PREPARED!“ The gulf oil disaster is one of many reasons to prepare; but it is certainly one that’s real and in our face right now. I for one am glad that I’ve already completed your course, and have the printed book and references always on hand. My preps have come a long way since then.

Advice for non-believers – 2 cents; wild conspiracy theories – dime a dozen; smiling as you survey your preparations while the news reports potential disasters – priceless… Thanks for all you do!

Learn, train, prepare – and enjoy life!!
–Scott

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 2, 2010 at 11:00 am

I just had this email sent in…

I really enjoy your emails they are very informative. As a matter of fact you
inspired me to make emergency pack-packs. It is really a smart thing to do. But
what burns my butt is when people start talking about the fossil fuel power
plants here in the states causing acid rain. I worked in a coal fired power
plant and they have such stringent rules on emissions.

The EPA keeps a close eye on them. I worked for First Energy and they are very concerned about any emissions they expel. They are fined whenever they have emissions over there limit. What they see when they look at a stack at a power plant is steam coming out. I am sorry for rambling on just wanted to get it off my chest. Thanks for listening.

Briteeyes

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 2, 2010 at 11:13 am

Briteeyes,

Thanks for bringing that up. The main culprit of acid rain is Sulfur Dioxide. And the main sources of Sulfur Dioxide are from burning high-sulfur coal and burning high sulfur fuels for automobiles.

This isn’t a big problem in the US since our automobile fuels have had little to no sulfur for several years. Also, coal from the western US has very low sulfur and the high-sulfur coal from the midwest and East coast is burned in coal plants with VERY efficient sulfur “scrubbers” on the exhaust stacks.

Some of the worst countries for sulfur emissions/acid rain are China, Russia, India, and Iran. South America is a mixed bag…some countries have almost no sulfur emissions guidelines while others put a premium on clean air.

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Vote -1 Vote +1C.E.
July 2, 2010 at 11:28 am

Dave,

Thank you for doing this…, i.e., bring to light how gullable we are on “info” passed around on the internet as if coming from the mouth of God!! And thank you for pointing out how stupid it makes us look when we send junk around like this – people do laugh at us – and how much time it wastes!

Keep this up. It is EXTREMELY valuable.

C*****, Ph.D.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Millard
July 2, 2010 at 1:05 pm

Sir, Do you really believe we burn fossil fuel. If so please tell me and
all just how all this crude got over 30,000 ft below the ocean floor
plus 5,000 ft of water.There is oil everywhere oozing up from the bowels
of mother earth. Just how much matter does it take to make a barrel of
oil. How did all this matter pile up in all these cavities and wait
millions of years to turn to crude? The amount of oil gushing from the
Deep Horizon blow out should tell you it’s not from fossils. No fossil
has ever been found much below 15,000 ft. Then it was only bits and
pieces. If you believe it’s fossil fuel then your credibility is shot.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 2, 2010 at 1:24 pm

This is an interesting comment…thank you for writing in.

I find it interesting that my credibility as an Urban Survival and Preparedness expert is based on my beliefs about the origins of fossil fuel.

In any case, I’m familiar with the theory that you are talking about, but it COMPLETELY misses the point of the newsletter. The phrase, “Fossil Fuel” is in widespread use in American vocabulary. It doesn’t require explanation, and it can be used in a newsletter to describe a class of fuels. When most people hear, “fossil fuel” they think “oil, gas, and coal.” They don’t think, “fuels that come from decayed plant and animal matter.”

I use the term, “fossil fuel” to convey a thought to my audience…not to convey my beliefs on the origins of fuel.

In any case, you posed several questions but no answers. I think many people reading would love to have someone (you, perhaps?) clearly explain the “Russian” theory of deep oil.

This is not the venue for me to do it. Unfortunately, that is not central to my focus of helping people get prepared for surviving disasters. It is, no doubt, central to precipitating events that might cause survival situations, but the knowledge about the origins of oil won’t save anyone in a survival situation.

One final thought…is it POSSIBLE that BOTH the “Russian” deep oil theory AND the “organic matter decay” theory are right or does one HAVE to be right at the expense of the other? In other words, is there a possibility that there could there be multiple sources for oil?

David

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Vote -1 Vote +1John
July 6, 2010 at 10:47 am

Good article and exchange of comments. One of the things that complicates the Gulf disaster is the incredible control BP appears to be exerting in the Gulf area. When press isn’t allowed to get the story, when air space is restricted, etc., (assuming both are true), it leaves things wide open for wild speculation. Anybody who’s prepping should know what’s going on, what isn’t, and what probabilities are for various scenarios. It requires discernment, which presumably preppers have some of to begin with. Otherwise they wouldn’t be prepping.
As for videos showing alleged results of toxic rain, something appears to be happening, and I only hope we get the straight scoop on it sooner than later. Something’s affecting plants, including crops, which could have a direct bearing on the food supply. Keep stocking up!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
July 6, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Thanks for writing, John.

Keep in mind that Obama has said that BP can’t lift a finger without his approval. This whole situation is so intertwined that it’s hard to know who is making the decisions and who is simply carrying out orders.

I’m also very interested in finding out what’s going on with the blisters/holes in plants that are being blamed on Corexit 9500. You’re dead-on about “Keep stocking up!” We live in such an interdependant society that it’s hard to have an event in ANY part of the country that doesn’t effect the entire country.

Keep preparing, looking for truth, and spreading the word!

David

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Vote -1 Vote +1Don Ruane
December 10, 2010 at 7:52 am

The only lesson to be learned in the Gulf spill is that our Federal Government is incapable of doing any thing right.

The Energy Department was created to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil in 1976 under President Jimmy Carter.

Simply ask yourself has the energy Department lessened our dependence on foreign oil.

OIL IMPORTS 1976 22% of our needs
OIL IMPORTS 2010 74% of our needs.

Also we have more oil under the US, than any other place in the world.

Don Ruane

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