When the SHTF, Cities Will Burn…Not!

by Evan on May 17, 2010


Welcome to this week’s SurviveInPlace.com Urban Survival
Newsletter. This week we’re going to talk about why the cities
won’t burn to the ground after a major disaster and breakdown in
civil order.

Many say that when the SHTF, EVERYONE left in the city will be
killed…and killed again! The only cars will be burned out
shells, and all of the buildings will be burned to the ground.
It’ll be worse than a nuclear explosion. After a couple of
weeks, the only food left for people to eat will be other people.

Sound familiar?

If you haven’t heard this before, it’s what many “preppers” think
will happen to cities in the event of another depression, a major
terrorist attack, or a major natural disaster.

To be fair, the storyline sells books & movies, but is there any
basis in reality?

In short, no. Even Mogadishu, Somolia, the immoral hell hole
that it is, isn’t as bad as what people predict for the US in the
event of a major disaster. I have no doubt that many will be
killed in the next civil breakdown situation, but the question
remains whether cities will be any more dangerous than rural

If you get a nice isolated rural house where you can shoot your
guns and can’t see or hear your neighbors, who’s going to answer
you if you yell “help!” or “fire!”? The answer is nobody. This
is a big reason why towns and cities were formed in the first

The belief that cities will burn also assumes that nobody learned
anything after Katrina. It assumes that nobody will use any of
the 60+ million guns purchased since Katrina in the US to protect
themselves or their neighbors.

Finally, it assumes that all police forces will forget their
oaths and duty like many of the New Orleans Police force did
after Katrina.

Folks, the world has changed. There are more gun-owners than
ever, more of those gun owners are getting advanced training than
ever, and there are more gun owners of all political colors who
are willing and able to defend their family from violent attack
than ever before.

Of course, there will be anti-gun cities like DC and Chicago that
are hard hit because of the exodus of gun owners who want to obey
the law. But in areas where individuals can own firearms, armed
uprisings by gangs and thugs just won’t be allowed to last very
long. Good people like you and me won’t put up with it.

Thugs will do fine as long as they keep attacking sheep, but as
soon as they hit a sheepdog, a family of sheepdogs, or a
neighborhood of sheepdogs, the game is going to get ugly real
quick for the bad guys.

Are cities perfect? Again, absolutely not. I’d love to live in
a small urban area just big enough that I’m not seen as the “new
guy” for the next 10 years. But the reality is that my disaster
survival plans need to be based on where I am today.

You know, I have people contact me every month who are concerned
that disaster will hit before they get finished with my 12 week
course! Frankly, I think this is a valid concern. We’re living
in amazing times. In addition to acts of God, it’s anyone’s
guess how long it will be before the next major terrorist attack
or economic trouble strikes.

It’s great to have your plans, dreams, and wish list for your
perfect retreat property, (we do) but how much good will that do
you if the electrical grid goes down tomorrow and you’re forced
to make your stand where you live right now?

I want to challenge you to take some time this weekend to think
about what you would do if the electrical grid went down
tomorrow. Not a month or a year from now. Not as soon as you
get your basic preparations taken care of. Tomorrow.

Why? Because, like I talk about in the SurviveInPlace course,
your survival plan should be based on solid logistics and
planning…not just “stuff.” Think about where the shortcomings
are with your current situation, how you would handle them if you
were currently in a survival situation. And think about what you
can do to take care of those shortcomings since you aren’t
currently in a survival situation.

Make a list. If the “fixes” involve buying stuff, include price.
If the fixes involve learning skills, include the time required.
When you’re done, prioritize and schedule a plan to start
knocking them out.

Let me know what you come up with…shoot me an email or post it

Of course, if you need a good tool that will save you hundreds of
hours of research, check out the SurviveInPlace.com Urban
Survival Course. It will take you step by step through the
process of preparing for breakdowns in civil order.

The easy to follow guide represents hundreds of hours of
research, interviews, and training, and years of testing. In
other words, unless your time is only worth 5c-10c per hour, it’s
way cheaper to take the course than to spend your time
reinventing the wheel.

Besides, time may not be something that we’ve got a lot of.

Until next week,

David Morris

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Vote -1 Vote +1Evan
May 18, 2010 at 2:57 pm

“Let me know what you come up with”

This is going to sound a little far-fetched to the self-described preppers who don’t trust anyone. But go with me on this. The easiest way to prepare for “The Day”, is to get help. That’s why shop for tools, food, guns, ammo, etc – they help, that’s why – as you put it – cities and towns were formed, because quite frankly, they help. And that’s why everyone visits your site for advice. It helps. This is why you should find someone in your neighborhood you TRUST. Read between the lines here – I’m not talking about someone you trust, I’m talking about someone you TRUST. Now AND when it happens. Prepping can be overwhelming if it requires you purchase a lot or do any sort of heavy construction. The solution? Get someone to help you. Divide the things you both need most into 2 lists. One for him/her, one for you. Ideally, this person should live in your neighborhood or at least the same town you live in. It does me no good if I live in Des Moines to prep with someone who lives in Davenport. Personally, we live in a small town of about 1,000 in a rural county of about 10,000 people. We are the largest town in the county. I would much rather be here than outside of town, but, like you say, both have their advantages.

For me, I have at least one person, maybe 2 people I TRUST here in town that I can enlist to help with needed items. I know what he wants to buy – guns and ammo – and while I will still get my own, I’m buying other things first like camping supplies, large quantities of food for long term storage, tools, etc. We both will be gardening this year so I will be buying certain tools for it and he will buy the tools I don’t. This winter, we will both be delving into what we both call “The List”. “The List” has a few hundred must-have items on it for long term survival in no-electricity conditions. Some are cheap additions to the cache of goodies – like edible plant encyclopedias. If worse comes to worst, we can move in together and share tools.


Vote -1 Vote +1Evan
May 18, 2010 at 2:57 pm

Speakng of the wheel David…A lightweight mt. or beach cruiser type bike is a most silent and easily managed means of off-the-road transportation, cheap enough to buy and easy maintenance. If you don’t have one think about it. I tried both and found more gears are not always better; sprockets can be noisey, more parts to cause problems, more work to fix, and of course, more money. With a single speed light weight bike, I can carry it, two chain links, two inner tubes and a couple small tools… easy day for a flat or chain snap. I tested both in getting past people and dogs at night both on and off road… I found the more sprockets the less chance of sliding by and multiple gears don’t shift well when ditches are short, sweet and to the point. This I proved to myself, but my area will vary to yours. In the long run, I found that with a cheap one speed bike I can move about timely, quietly, safely, and with less effort than walk/running. Gas nothing. I also found out that if a ‘bad’ dog caught onto me, the bike makes a great inbetween! So ask why reinvent the wheel, just use it! Thanks David for all you do! Kind Regards, Caroline


Vote -1 Vote +1Evan
May 18, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Having a survival plan is number one..The defination of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.If not having a plan is doing the same thing,I pitty you…..On the grounds of what the what the good book (bible) says in revelations a kingdom look apon and revered as the financial meca of the world,well its refered to as the babyalon of the future.And with all do respect it burns baby.It doesint paint a picture of survival for anyone,even in rural pockets.Does that mean we do nothing and say it is what it is…No one in the public,outside of the intelligence community amagined simulatanous terrorist attacks using commercial airliners…If we reallywant to be survivors we cant discount anything.We need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.Most importantly build a inner circle of self reliance…Much like davids explanation of why cities and community started to begin in the first place.However i disagree with with widespread fire as not being probable.I find the based on the bibles profecy and worldly events,we are right on schedule.Hold on to your hats and god bless you and your families.Once you have your plan in place,turn to Him for the rest.This is your wakeup call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mike in sarasota,florida.


Vote -1 Vote +1Evan
May 18, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Have you read “The Road”? It’s the closest book to describe how things might be. It’s also a 2009 movie which doesn’t do the book justice. I”m locked and loaded and have lots of permanent food stored up. I am down here from Alaska, but getting back as soon as I can. The S is going to HTF very soon. Get ready.


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