This One Self-Defense Mistake Could Get You Killed

by David Morris on January 19, 2012

Welcome to this week’s Urban Survival Newsletter. This week, we’re going to talk about the problems of hostile confrontation in a disaster situation as well as a couple of tricks to keep firearm components from working their way loose and folding knives opening smoothly.

There was a story that came out of San Antonio this week that emphasizes a point that I’ve attempted to make several times in the past.

A 27 year old man was home one evening last week when two armed robbers entered his house. He was able to defend himself with a shotgun, killing one and injuring the other. He took a bullet to the chin and was injured in the process, but this would seem like a very good example of defending yourself against violent attackers.

Then, this week, friends of the robbers returned and did a drive-by shooting on the house in retaliation for the homeowner successfully defending himself. They fired “several” shots, hitting the house and a neighbor’s car, but fortunately nobody was injured.

This retaliation scenario is exactly the type of situation that you want to avoid in an urban survival situation.

Don’t misunderstand what I’m saying. I’m a very tactically minded person and I believe in and train for defending myself and my family from violent attacks with the most efficient tools and techniques available. If I was in the same situation as this guy, I would have defended myself too.

But it’s dangerous, and I’d argue outright irresponsible to think that your primary means of defending your home, your family, your property, and your life in a survival situation is going to be with violence.

When some people think about preparedness, the first thing that they think of is going loud (shooting) or going kinetic (physically engaging an enemy/attacker). As a result, they think they’re not prepared unless they have guns and ammo and they think they ARE prepared once they do have guns and ammo. Their fallback position is using their weapons, and they don’t have too many “tools” that they have thought about using to help diffuse tense situations to keep them from getting out of hand.

Kinetic skills are important skills to have, but in many cases you want to do what you can to try to avoid unnecessary conflict that will lead to violent escalation and possible retaliation. If nothing else, avoiding unnecessary conflict allows you to have fewer enemies to worry about.

In Aristotle’s book, “Rhetoric” he says that it is absurd that a person feels shame at his inability do defend himself physically, but not his inability to defend himself through speech and reasoning, particularly given the fact that the use of speech is more common than the use of physical force.

That wisdom is as true today as it was in the 300s BC.

And, as another bonus, just like you have the opportunity to defend yourself with speech and reasoning more often than you have opportunity to defend yourself physically, you also have many more real life situations to sharpen your verbal skills than you do your physical defense skills.

Keep in mind that not every situation can be diffused…and sometimes a judicious use of force is exactly what’s called for, but if you can live at peace with others around you, it’s normally a wise move.

I’ll give you an example. You’re two weeks into a regional catastrophic power outage. A family comes to your door, knocks, calls out your name and says who they are. You don’t particularly like the father and don’t know the wife or the kids.

One scenario could be that you open a slot, stick a shotgun barrel out of the slot, tell them to get the heck off of your property, to find their own darn food, that they can’t have any of your stuff, and that you’ll shoot them if they come back before they and their kids starve to death.

But another scenario could be to tell them that your neighborhood needs help digging some new slit trenches, cranking a hand generator, breaking soil, gathering wood, etc. and if they’re willing to work, you’d be willing to try to gather up a little something from your neighbors.

In the first scenario, the situation will end with the family feeling powerless, dejected, and possibly like they don’t have anything to lose by gathering up some friends and coming back to attack you.

In the second scenario, you have proposed a scenario where both parties can get something of value, the family saves face, and you’ve set the expectation that there’s not much available and that they can’t come back to ask for more without contributing value. You’re not giving in and you’re not butting heads—you’re redirecting them so that you’re teammates for a short time.

A few other thoughts on the topic of escalating vs. deescalating conflicts in a survival situation.

  1. When people are desperate, law enforcement is busy, and the perceived reward of acting anti-socially outweighs the perceived risk, it’s human nature to act more like an animal than civilized if the person thinks it is necessary for survival. Under these situations, you can’t just act rudely to people and not expect some fallout.
  2. During any natural disasters, man made disasters, breakdown in supply chains, or breakdowns in civil order, we can expect the EMS system to be taxed, overloaded, or dysfunctional. Fight scenes are cool in movies and books, but in real life, they lead to injuries, abrasions, cuts, breaks, infections, and a loss of productivity. There’s nothing “cool” about winning a fight with a bunch of gang bangers, only to lose the use of your hand due to a cut or die from a simple untreated infection.
  3. When you’ve created a situation where there’s a good chance of retaliation, it might be a good time to temporarily relocate, permanently relocate, or increase security substantially. Increasing security isn’t really an option unless you have a tight knit neighborhood or a good sized mutual aid group, so it may not be a good option.

My personal thought is that I’ll avoid conflict wherever possible, deescalate verbally when possible, and decisively conclude the conflict kinetically when that is the only option.

Using your gear:

I recently bought a used M4 that had an Aimpoint scope on it as well as a screw-on accessory rail for the foregrip. It’s a great gun, and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed shooting it…and I’m REALLY glad that I’ve had a couple of sessions with where I ran it through it’s paces.

What happened was that the mounting screws on the Aimpoint scope AND the screws on the accessory rail worked their way loose. I have to admit that I tried wiggling them both with my hands and they seemed tight and I assumed they’d been screwed in tightly, so I didn’t even attempt to tighten them down.

After running a few mags through the gun a couple of weeks ago, I noticed that the foregrip and the scope were both loose. That’s not a nice feeling.

Fortunately, I carry a Wheeler Gunsmith Toolkit that has 89 different screwdriver bits so that I can get the EXACT right width bit when I’m tightening down gun screws. I also keep a small tube of Loctite blue in my kit, so it was simply a matter of finding the right bit, taking out the screws, putting a tiny dab of Loctite blue on the screws, and putting them back in snugly.

Keep in mind that many people say that you should never need Loctite…that your screws should just fit perfectly and not come loose if you tighten them snugly. I’m of the school of thought that I’d rather use Loctite blue and be confident when I’m a few hundred rounds into a shooting session, whether it’s training, competition, fun, or serious.

As an alternative to Loctite, many people use clear fingernail polish or “Guntite”, which is equivalent to Loctite Blue. It’s really important that you use Loctite BLUE and not red. Blue can be removed, but red is pretty much permanent.

This is a good lesson on why it’s important to use your gear. Anything that you think you might have to trust your life to at some point in the future had better be tough enough for you to test it out now…that’s the only way to really be confident in it, and to get comfortable with dealing with malfunctions.

Another trick that might help you out if you carry a folding knife with a nylon/poly washer in it like the CRKT M-16 series knives do is to put a drop or two of PTFE (Teflon) lube on it. I’ve tried lots of different lubes on my knives and this is my favorite one so far because of the fact that it lasts a long time and doesn’t seem to attract dirt & grit.

That’s it for this week…what are your thoughts on “verbal self defense,” deescalating conflicts, and other options that you could take after creating a situation where retaliation is likely in a survival situation? How about tips and tricks for maintaining firearms and knives? Please share your thoughts by commenting below.

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David Morris

 

 

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Craig L Johnson
January 19, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Great article David…one thing they taught us to begin learning at the police academies Ive graduated from is a form of verbal deescalation called “verbal judo.” It works much of the time and it is worth looking into…http://www.verbaljudo.com/

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Grinch
January 20, 2012 at 6:18 am

To allow the blade on a folder knife to deploy easily, even with just a flick of the wrist, use good old pencil lead (really graphite) in the hinge. Shave it into small bits and work it into the hinge. It will not attract water and dirt and keeps things slick, And it works on all types of hinges, nylon or metal on metal.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:46 am

You can also get small tubes of graphite in the key section of most hardware stores. If you’re into lock-picking, this is a priceless tool for exterior locks.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1SteveCKM
January 20, 2012 at 6:30 am

Using psychology is one of our primary techniques in CKM, Commando Krav Maga. It can buy you precious time before performing a disarm by giving the attacker a false sense of superiority. It may even remove the threat completely. I teach to avoid conflict, but if unavoidable, then get in (disable or remove the threat), get out, and go home. Thanks for your points about Loctite blue. Never thought about it.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:45 am

Krav teaches some GREAT skills, particularly psychological ones like what Steve is talking about. I’m particularly fond of the “don’t panic” drills that include getting dog piled, getting attacked while blindfolded, and (my favorite) having 4 people hold each of your arms/legs (one each), a fifth person elbowing/doing pushups on your stomach, and a sixth person covering your eyes/nose/mouth while you try to keep your cool, control your breathing, and figure a way out of the situation.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1John
January 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm

An excellent similar product is Tri-Flow, which contains PTFE. It can be purchased at most quality hardware stores. Among other attributes, it’s the best padlock lubricant I’ve used!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Great point…if you’re trying to defeat a combination lock by feel, it helps tremendously to have it working smoothly.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Stephen
January 22, 2012 at 4:58 pm

Hey David,

We use these applications during physical stress exercises in my Survival Fitness Program which you’re familiar with.

Placing one in a 911 situation with the heart rate/hormone/brain in code black you can really see how an individual can or cannot make it. Few truly understand what the body goes through until it encounters a code black or minimally code red situation.

Keep up the great work,
Stephen

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Vote -1 Vote +1Brian
January 27, 2012 at 5:01 am

Stephen,

Conditions white, yellow, and red I”ve heard of; but black? What is that?

Thanks.
Brian

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Vote -1 Vote +1Toni
January 20, 2012 at 6:40 am

Thank you for the article. One question…where do you buy ” PTFE (Teflon) lube”?? Does it come in a spray can?

Thanks,

Toni

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:41 am

You can get teflon in a spray can, but I would suggest simply going to a local bicycle shop and getting some. You’ll want to call and ask if they have PTFE “clete lube”. It comes in a small plastic squeeze bottle that’s the size of a bottle of eye drops and, since you only need to use a drop at a time, it will probably last you forever.

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1Eric Seberg
January 20, 2012 at 6:41 am

Sorry, I don’t see the track here. Someone who kicks your door in probably isn’t interested, or even intelligent enough, to converse with.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:38 am

Good point…they ARE 2 different tracks. In the story from San Antonio, I don’t think he did anything wrong…when the robbers entered his house with a gun (or guns) it immediately jumped past the “Let’s sit down, have some tea, and talk about your childhood and why you’ve become a robber” stage and went straight to yelling “DROP YOUR WEAPON!” and using the most efficient tools available to defend himself from a lethal threat if they didn’t comply. It simply illustrated the fact that retaliation is a real possibility. In the pretend situation I presented, there was an opportunity to either deescalate or escalate the conflict with words.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Barry
January 20, 2012 at 7:08 am

I consider myself fortunate to be on your mailing list. I am finishing a degree in Homeland Security at a well recieved state college, and none of my classes even remotely give the practical insights you instill. We live in NJ, but I would take a drive and intorduce my wife and two kids to you during spring break, just for the chance to shake your hand and have lunch with you, my treat. Each one of your articles are on the money. Great job as always.

Thanks

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:34 am

God Bless you, Barry and thanks for your kind comments. Best of success to you, whether it’s in law enforcement or consulting.

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-8 Vote -1 Vote +1gail
January 20, 2012 at 7:53 am

love your site. Almost perfect spelling/grammar-only one mistake-”it’s” for possession (it’s range) does NOT have an apostrophe (only for “it is”)
God Bless

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+14 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:28 am

Thanks, Gail. If it’s a choice between a factual mistake and a grammatical one, I’ll take the grammatical one every time, but I try not to make those either.

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+5 Vote -1 Vote +1Dan
January 20, 2012 at 9:08 am

Sorry, I don’t know how the +1/-1 system works, but I tried to balance gail’s (no capitalization? *grin*) comment. While I agree that we present a better impression with proper spelling and grammar, the priority is (and should be) on content. God bless you and thank you for excellent info on an excellent site.

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+8 Vote -1 Vote +1Templar
January 20, 2012 at 10:40 am

Gale, its’ amsing that poepel lik yu cant’ enjoie readin an artikle withoute critising the most superficial, inconseqential comet. Ur worthless “gramatical” errors that you deem so important to piint out is, Inshort who cares ?? Enjoy the article and cease being trite. The article was of value, unlike you’re piontles opinun. There, i hop enouf mised speled words hear to drive you nutts.
Great article David and I agree content over a insignificant grammatical error

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Shirley
January 20, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Hey, Guys! She was just pointing out that not only is David smart in this subject of Being Prepared, but he is smart in the grammer department, also. It’s great to be admired, let him take it and run with it. I agree with Gail. I, also, agree with you guys! (And, I bet Gail does, too!) But, good Comedy, Dan! Real good stuff, David! Thanks.

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1Mary
January 20, 2012 at 8:07 am

After all is said and done, our disaster whatever it may be, Will eventually come to an end. Things will get back to normal. So those that have sought you out for help and been turned away will still be there. Diplomacy whenever possible is always the best policy. What goes around eventually comes around.
Good-Luck
Mary

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1Ed
January 20, 2012 at 8:16 am

Talk is cheap(er than ammo! ;-) )
Seriously, excellent article.
Best,
Ed

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:27 am

Love it :)

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Vote -1 Vote +1usmcbob
January 20, 2012 at 9:16 pm

and easier to replace!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Steve
January 20, 2012 at 8:46 am

David,

Your point about the “family at your door” scenerio is a good one. I would not be able to summarily turn them away and be able to live with myself. On the other hand, if two guys knock down my door with intent to rob and do harm to me, I seriously doubt that even the greatest orator will dissuade them. The obituaries in my area are full of reasonable, unarmed old people, who I am sure posed no threat to their invaders. So, although my invaders or their kin may kill me, I would like to at least go down fighting.

Good newsletter. I always look forward to it.

Steve

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+15 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 8:51 am

There’s a Marine Corps slogan that, perhaps, says it best: “Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.”

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Thomas Avery Blair EA
January 20, 2012 at 8:49 am

I thought I would pass this information along to you and ask if the idea is viable.

Have a tax customer who is also a police officer and SWAT and former “something military and not openly discussed.” He mentioned usefulness of both a magnifying glass and a small (mirror-based) periscope. The first can be used to dry out fire tinder, start a fire, burn a whole in a flammable material and even cauterize a wound in the field. The second would have stealth benefits, allowing one to watch without being easily seen, including around corners. And the mirrors in the periscope may also have multiple uses from shaving to signaling others without shouting or exposing full body forms to an enemy.

Sounded reasonable, so I am passing it on to you. He also mentioned something about baking soda and its’ many uses, but I didn’t catch what he was talking about.

Respectfully submitted,

Thomas Avery Blair, EA

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Linkie
January 20, 2012 at 8:53 am

Great article. I never really considered the whole bartering option. That gunsmithing tool kit is a nice find too.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jim Pecarovich
January 20, 2012 at 9:20 am

Great article, David!
I liked your cool-headed approach to uncool situations.
The pen (and the mouth!) ARE mightier than the sword. Keep up the good work!
Jim

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rick
January 20, 2012 at 9:33 am

Another alternative for holding screws tight, is to put a layer or 2 of teflon pipe tread tape or plumbing pipe compound. both with keep screws from working loose. It also works for holding arrow tips tight in the shafts on carbon and alluminum arrows. I have also work in juvenile correction and my rule of thumb was I would rather talk someone down than put them down. Physical force is the last resort.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1norman
January 20, 2012 at 9:45 am

It’s better to be six years too early than six minutes too late. Be like the Boy Scouts and “Be prepared!”

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-5 Vote -1 Vote +1Stan Weimer
January 20, 2012 at 10:13 am

Dave, your defusion atricle falls not on deaf ears; however… the reality is, it’ll take more than amorphous verbage when confronting Obama & his mendacious media. Their conjunctive silence about (Islamo-Mexican be-headings now taking place from within our own country, is nothing short of cowardice. Obamas silence only gives creadance and emboldenmnet to the many conjoined (Islamo-Mexican terror training camps, like the one inside Sandiago Ca.) Training Camps Aided and abetted by (Islamomexican) drug gangs planning the take over of the U.S. And let us not forget the number of gang related members infiltrating our military, and the many prisons being used as Muslim recruitment centers for future terrorist Islamofascism. This inimical Obama conoclast is a Roman Horse & something this nation had better start to introspectively acknowledge or many are going to die.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Lindalee
January 20, 2012 at 10:54 am

Hi David,
You thoughts on trying to avoid conflict hit me especially hard. Last Fri. night 2 young men got into a fight. One was taken down and thought it neccesary to stick a 6 inch blade into the throat of his opponent. Needless to say, he died before he got to the hospital. Not only has his life been taken but now the one with the knife will likely spend the remainder of his life in prison. My heart breaks for the families of these two. Please pray for them. Thanks for doing such a wonderful newsletter. Lindalee

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-4 Vote -1 Vote +11LessonSelfDefense.com
January 20, 2012 at 11:35 am

Where did this happen? Was it reported in a newspaper? I would like to put the article on my site to show how effective a knife to the throat can be. It sounds like a very sad situation and I would like more details. Was the kid with the knife defending himself from being killed?

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Vote -1 Vote +11LessonSelfDefense.com
January 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Why did I get – ‘s? Just because you don’t like the message, don’t kill the messenger. I like to be controversial anyway, so keep ‘em coming!

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Wayne
January 20, 2012 at 10:59 am

I love your story about the “family at your door” . This is real life, and a perfect time to make a friend or make an enemy. In the Bible, land owners are told to leave some grain in the field for the poor—the people have to work and go get the leftover grain—it is not a simple handout from your already-stored surplus. This gives dignity to those poor folks, something sorely missing in our welfare system. Great idea about bartering for food—makes sense—and might make a friend / ally, which is always nice.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Christian
January 20, 2012 at 11:02 am

Dave, you’re doing a marvelously efficient service to any who are wise or fortunate enough to visit your site! Please know that those of us who do, will VERY LIKELY survive, our odds greatly enhanced due to our participation here.

Obviously, EVERY situation is going to fall under one of several categories: #1] MILDLY IRRITATING #2] FRUSTRATING #3] Frightening #4] POTENTIALLY THREATENING #5] MILDLY THREATENING & #6] LETHALY THREATENING

The old phrase “Practice makes perfect”, needs upgrading to “PERFECT PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT” “Practice simply make permanent”; practice it wrong, you’ll do it wrong.

This LAW of LIFE is why your material is so significantly useful, because you DO try to “get it right” each time.

I’d suggest that each visitor here, make it a habit to “Practice what you teach” until they’ve determined that they’re proficient, and experienced, and comfortable enough that they’ve found the best method for THEM, to respond to EACH of the 6 situational circumstances listed above.

By doing so, I think they’ll find that they’ll be more FULLY PREpared for almost any eventuality.

Thanks again for all that YOU are doing for us, LORD HELP US to do ALL that we should to be PREpared!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1shadoedogcdr
January 20, 2012 at 11:15 am

I have been trained in verbal judo it works sometimes. I suggest keeping the pepper spray at the ready

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Vote -1 Vote +1Tom
January 20, 2012 at 11:23 am

If the traing camps don’t get us maybe the detention ones will.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Old Soldier
January 20, 2012 at 11:26 am

Speak softly and carry a big stick was always a good policy. Had never heard the Marine proverb mentioned above but all tactical types play a continious game of “What if?”

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Vote -1 Vote +11LessonSelfDefense.com
January 20, 2012 at 11:30 am

I also like the book “Verbal Judo”. I would also rather run away from a fight than deal with the aftermath of it. I’d rather be called a wimp then kill someone that is just trying to be a bully or idiot…BUT, If someone is trying to kill me or my family, I will not hesitate to kill them. The only way to deal with violence is violence. I look at it this way, when you have trained to end conflicts in the fastest way possible, you don’t have an ego to protect. I teach people to end conflicts within 4 seconds, but they can only use what I teach if there is absolutely no other choice. Coach David (1lessonselfdefense.com)

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Vote -1 Vote +1Steve
January 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Per Sun Tzu….. excellent

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+6 Vote -1 Vote +1Craig
January 20, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Dave,
Having 24 years in the military behind me with much of it in special operations, I have learned that anyone who shows up in my face brandishing a weapon of any kind is not interested in psychobabble. The only time you should try to talk yourself out of a bad situation is when you are at a disadvantage. The best option is to be able to legally carry a concealed weapon. It should be in your jacket pocket and in your hand. As soon as the provocateur shows his weapon or gets too close, that’s when you either show him your weapon and put him on the ground with a citizen’s arrest or, if he appears to be keen on using his pistol, long gun or knife, you shouldn’t hesitate for a second. You would be wise to keep your gun in your pocket to make him think you are defenseless and shoot him or her from that position. You can maintain the advantage with this tactic, even against several aggressors. Yes, practice makes perfect. Practice by shooting targets from your hip. Several authors you can find on Google can give great tips on this technique.

That said, I agree with your faith in a man or woman who is begging for help. By studying him or her carefully in a fully lighted place, you might be able to ascertain whether or not a weapon might be present in that group. Ask all of them to lie face down on the ground for individual inspection by someone who is on your side of the confrontation. If you are absolutely positive that he, she, or they are clean and that a sniper is not hiding nearby, then negotiation is the truly Christian thing to do. But, still keep your distance from everyone who has confronted you. If one makes slow moves to flank you, the time has come to brandish your weapon call for help from enforcers of the law or friends who can give you armed backup. And, if you become certain that your life or the life of another innocent person is at stake, shoot to kill. Do not try to stop an aggressor by shooting to disable. Exercise possible scenarios at least twice per month. Practice will help you maintain situational awareness and shooting accuracy.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Dan
January 20, 2012 at 9:03 pm

Nice!
Justin Case

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1J W Mason
January 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Good article and good information. Thanks. All good except the one full of misspelled words by the guy trying to make a point that all writing is OK if we can understand it, which is basically true.

I always appreciate it when somebody points out an error of mine, as I was in the writing business for a long time. There is some validity to the thought that if somebody does something wrong, how much faith can we put in the rest of what he writes? Simply stated, the fewer errors, the better. That was a very minor gaffe and I didn’t even notice it, being more concerned about the point of the message than the grammar.

But something like “It’s hard for Joe and I to understand” is a teeth-gritter. Leave out “Joe and” and see how it sounds/looks.

Good article; keep up the good work.

Best regards,
JM

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+6 Vote -1 Vote +1Sue the frugal survivalist
January 20, 2012 at 3:18 pm

I spent my career at DMV. I began giving driving tests, then later became the person who had to revoke the driver’s license of chronic alcoholics, the severely mentally ill, drug addicts, etc. After the final interview with the driver, I had to tell them that they were losing their license. Luckily, I was never threatened, although most of my co-workers had been. One driver pointed a gun at the hearing officer delivering the bad news. I believe that I was not threatened because I expressed genuine sympathy for the situation these drivers faced. I was truly sorry that they had a drug /alcohol problem, or that their medication couldn’t control their psychotic episodes. I made it clear that for their safety, and that of others, I had to revoke their license. I think they understood I had no choice, but that I felt badly about having to take the action I did. The hearing officers who were assaulted or threatened were less than sympathic, sometimes sarcastic about how the driver had only himself to blame.

I believe in a survival situation, we would be wise to empathize with the plight of those who approach us for help, even if we have nothing to spare. In such a situation, a harsh reply to their plea for help could result in violence directed at your family by someone who has been pushed to the edge of insanity by deprivation and stress.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1The lone survivalist
January 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm

I think the best conflict is one you do not have to go through. Being prepared for almost any situation will go a long way to ensure you will survive a confrontation. It only takes about 72 hours without water to make someone lose their ability to process thought rationally and put in a situation where there is chaos a person will almost always resort to violence. I thought about what I would do if my neighbors came asking for food since everyone in my cul-de-sac ( I’m sure it is misspelled) thinks we will get out of this mess. What I have done is to prepare soup mixes I buy at the dollar store. I can get three for a dollar and I found a store that sells such food in bulk. I prepare each one by vacuum sealing it with a food saver. I have made around 200 of them and I will use these for trade and other needs. I have done this to all my food items since it will keep food up to 5 times longer than just storing it in air tight containers. I also collect rain water for drinking and it works great. Great article and keep up the good work David.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Shirley
January 20, 2012 at 10:47 pm

This is a reply to THE LONE SURVIVALIST: I would be interested in knowing how long the food can remain “good” prepared this way. Is there any info in the directions that will help determine the time limit? I have, also, experimented with rain water, but I use it for plants. I will use this for my garden. I leave a bucket, with heavy glass jars, no lids. I collect the water after the rain and set them, with lids, in the house, leaving one jar with a lid on, outside to collect the sunshine for 1 sunny day or 2 partial sunny days. Then, I use it for plants. Plants seem to like this better than tap water.
PS: Let’s not get too bogged down with perfect grammer, spellings, now. No one is pointing fingers, remember, just making a positive statement for David. Everyone does make a spelling mistake or typo sometime. (Not a big deal!)

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Vote -1 Vote +1Chas B
January 20, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Dave, lot of good information in here, Keep up the great work and Thank You for all of your helpful insight.

Chas B

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1John
January 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Regarding Loctite, according to Loctite’s catalog, 242 (Blue) is specified on fasteners 1/4″ in diameter and larger. Loctite 222 (Purple) is specified for fasteners smaller than 1/4″. What does this mean? Loctite 242 (Blue) could act more like 271 (Red…i.e. permanent), on real small fasteners. I can personally attest to this from re-world experience over many decades.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 20, 2012 at 5:38 pm

A couple of things on this…If you could shoot over an online link, it would be great. After reading your post, I went and unscrewed a few small screws that I had loctite blue on to confirm that it wasn’t permanent. It wasn’t for me. One of the screws was a tiny screw holding a clip to a knife and it worked great.

In going to LoctiteProducts.com, they don’t even list loctite purple anymore, which is odd, because I didn’t think it had been that long since I’d seen the purple.

They DO list loctite green for screws that are 1/12″-1/2″ http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_lkr_green/overview/Loctite-Threadlocker-Green-290.htm

and loctite blue for screws that are bigger than 1/4″, which is exactly as you said: http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/10/15/t_lkr_blue/overview/Loctite-Threadlocker-Blue-242.htm If anyone has experience with the loctite blue becoming permanent on smaller screws, I’d love to hear about it.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Wayne Kovar
May 3, 2012 at 12:01 pm

Also read about Loctite 243. It says 243 replaces Loctite 242 and the current Loctite 243 formulations.
I cut and pasted the following from the above web site:
Loctite® 222 Threadlocker
Purple Low Strength
General purpose
Typical applications:
Easy removal, for small screws under M6 (1/4″)

Also do a Google search for “Loctite 222″ and you will get a tone of sites. Loctite 222 is listed on Amazon.com in these search results. Also click on LOCTITE 222 to get Loctite 222 Technical Data Sheet.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Brad
January 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm

I agree. My teaching, training, and experience have taught me the brain is the most important weapon. Anything you put on your hands can then can be an extension of the brain. Even something innoculous as a pencil or piece of paper can become a weapon. Awareness and being able to get away. My “Sifu” (chinese kung fu teacher) always said when asked how to defend from this or that attack he would say, ” Best defense is you not be there.” Enough said.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Boyd
January 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm

I have been using Blue Loctite on all my ARs for meny years and have not had any problems with it becoming permanent, and sone of those rail or sight mounting screws are pretty small.

I have had some screws come loose because I didn’t clean them well enough. Now I make sure to clean the treads with brake cleaner before assembly.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Kyle Largen
January 20, 2012 at 8:18 pm

I do have one suggestion for maintaining a knife or any other edged weapon. I’d suggest keeping a cold steel chisle edge on it, similar to the edge on a traditionally forged and sharpened Katana. This way you have a good, sharp edge while not having one that will chip or dull easily, if ever.

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Vote -1 Vote +1goezy007
January 20, 2012 at 9:18 pm

Good ideas. Another item I have found that works good as a lub is ATF, and water does not effect it. ATF also works well as a firearm lub. I use blue Loctite on my scope mounts. Mounts move in the field and you are out of business.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Mike
January 20, 2012 at 9:42 pm

Perhaps I missed something? Your article reads as if the young Texan made some kind of error in defending himself in his own home. Then you speak to verbal judo. But I must have missed the part where your verbal judo was applicable to the homeowner”s situation. What was the alternative except to defend against two trolls, at least one of which was armed. While I agree walking away from “it” is a good answer most of the time, in my own home under attack, I’m going to shoot the interlopers until they stop being a threat. I’ll deal with the remainder of the pond scum later, one problem at a time. The reason today’s trolls are so emboldened is because so many people roll over. Anger and the surgical application of force were the appropriate response. While I do agree that the mind is the real weapon, in battle, everyone benefits from force multipliers, in this case a shotgun. Sometimes you can leave the trash for tomorrow, but sometimes you can not.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 21, 2012 at 8:43 am

Hey Mike…here’s how I replied earlier to a similar comment. We’re in complete agreement and it’s worth posting twice.

Good point…they ARE 2 different tracks. In the story from San Antonio, I don’t think he did anything wrong…when the robbers entered his house with a gun (or guns) it immediately jumped past the “Let’s sit down, have some tea, and talk about your childhood and why you’ve become a robber” stage and went straight to yelling “DROP YOUR WEAPON!” and using the most efficient tools available to defend himself from a lethal threat if they didn’t comply. It simply illustrated the fact that retaliation is a real possibility. In the pretend situation I presented, there was an opportunity to either deescalate or escalate the conflict with words.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Dave W.
January 21, 2012 at 6:28 am

You just bought a M4? I have 2.And if you bought a used M4 buy a new bolt carrier for it.
Stag Arms AR-15 M4 quad rail,quick release M4 scope,back up pop up sights,Aimpoint laser sight,and a LED flash light.
Stag Arms AR-15 M4.I just used a Magpul kit.Back up rifle or a rifle for that trusted friend.
DPMS Panther LR-308B.I added a bi pod and a 500 yard scope.
Remington 870 Wingmaster turned into a tactical 12 gauge.20″ barrel with rifle sights,3 shot extension,folding stock,and flawless slide system.
Browning B A R Safari.300 Win.Mag. Bi pod and 1,000 yard scope.
Ruger M77 Hawkeye Alaskan 416 Ruger.Copper clad nickel bullet with iron core.2,400 fps.5,000 ft.lbs.It cuts holes in 1″ thick steel.
Springfield XD .45 ACP.
Colt Government automatic .45 ACP.
Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk .44 Mag.
Ruger Vaquero Bisley .44 Mag.Stainless 4 5/8″ Barrel.Only 10 ever made.

Now do you want to walk past the WARNING! signs that are set out at 500 yards around the farm house?I have 25 people in my group and they are bringing guns and ammo.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 21, 2012 at 8:47 am

Yes…I just bought an M4. No reason to say how many I have.

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Vote -1 Vote +1walt
January 21, 2012 at 10:44 pm

I have a few old sxs hammer guns on the wall here and there in handy locations on the walls in my house. they are atractive, they dont look too treatening, and they are loaded. Just a note, they are checked out and have the right size shells in them. other guns are not visable.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill in Colorado
January 21, 2012 at 7:33 am

Thanks! Great article with life-saving advice. (By the way, the word is “defuse,” not “diffuse.”)

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Vote -1 Vote +1Lynnette
January 21, 2012 at 8:03 am

I don’t drink…. but a friend of mine gave me a bottle of alcohol a few years ago and told me to “keep it…. just in case”…. I thought it was as “odd” gift since he knew I did not drink and asked him “why” he gave it to me…… his only answer was: “it could save your life someday”….. The more I learn, the more I can see the wisdom in his gift….. As a single grandma I think I could use it to talk myself out of many a bad situation….. Thanks for all you share here…..

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Eric
January 21, 2012 at 9:38 am

About the locktite…if you SHOULD find yourself in a position where you had to get a Locktit-ed and “stuck” screw or bolt out, the Locktite bond can be broken with heat. Use the point of a very small soldering iron against the fastener for a few seconds and it will break the bond. Works with all varieties of Loctite products, even the super-strong red. If no soldering iron, hold a small allen wrench or something similar in a pair of pliers over a lighter or candle flame to get your point heat source.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Nick Mauro
January 21, 2012 at 11:45 am

Great advise about “negotiating” with a family asking for help during a crisis. However, in your lead event example ” two armed robbers entered his house”, it seems, sans weaponry, the only bartering options left to the resident would have been, for example: please don’t hurt, rape or kill me or my family; take anything you want and I’ll help you load it in your vehicle, etc. Statistically, using a firearm in self-defense probably increased the odds one or more residents might have been injured or worse. Also shooting and injuring or killing another person, even in defense of one’s family, must be a dreadful experience with lingering negative consequences. Assuming pro level self defense skills were not an option, without the ability to use a firearm in self-defense the resident’s only option would have been to place himself and the lives of his loved ones completely at the mercy of the armed intruders and call 911 after the event, assuming any survivors. Finally, these days one should assume there’ll be retaliation from the thugs’ cohorts, even if no violence is used but a trial is likely.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 22, 2012 at 9:21 pm

In the case of the guy in San Antonio, it appears as if his only negotiating tool was his weapon. The first part of his story was inconsequential for this article…the whole point of including his story was the fact that friends/family of the guy he killed retaliated. In a survival situation, he would have wanted to SERIOUSLY considered relocating either temporarily or permanently.

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Vote -1 Vote +1alvin gottfried
January 21, 2012 at 8:36 pm

‘Verbal Judo” is a valuable tool I’ve used for years. I’ve worked with troubled young people from all walks of life, over 38 years, with very few times having need for physical force. I read and apply every good tool I’m able to fit into what I already know works. I appreciate your articles and learn from the comments that follow as well. Still looking to have a response to your “leadership invite”.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1walt
January 21, 2012 at 10:53 pm

I was about 21 or so when I loaned some tools to a guy on a job I was working on. when I went to get them back the guy ( who was bigger than me ) decieded he wanted to keep them and sucker punched me. When it was all said and done the guy was out cold and bleeding in his frount yard, and I drove myself to the hospital and got 60 stiches. on the way out I saw the guy getting a blood transfusion. I was really banged up all for about $ 30 .00 worth of spackle knives., but I won the fight and got my tools.
It was about the time I started to try and use my head a little bit more.

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Vote -1 Vote +1John Thomas
January 22, 2012 at 12:08 am

Dave:

Outstanding article. The real-life potential neighbor-at-your-door part was invaluable. I appreciate your using an example of specific wording to handle the situation.

Keep up the great work!

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Vote -1 Vote +1wmlroy
January 23, 2012 at 6:27 pm

One thing I learned at Frontsight I had never thought of before is that escaping and avoiding a fight are sound ‘tactics’. Never be ashamed to use them.

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Vote -1 Vote +1jc
January 25, 2012 at 4:15 pm

Some might call you a coward, however in the words of my grade school teacher:
“Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.”

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Vote -1 Vote +1Tom
May 11, 2012 at 3:44 am

If you ever use red locktite and need to undo it, a very small hand torch with a small flame. Heat the head of the screw and this will soften the locktite so that it is much easier to remove. I service cars for a living and have done this multiple times.

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