Finding Other Preppers & Flu Prevention

by David Morris on November 10, 2011

Welcome to this week’s Urban Survival Newsletter, brought to you by my new Fastest Way To Prepare survival course.

I want to start off by wishing all veterans happy Veterans’ Day and all Leathernecks a belated happy birthday.  I’m reminded on a daily basis how fortunate I am to have generations of people who came before me who were willing to sacrifice their lives (in death, disability, memories, or just service) so that I can enjoy the liberties that I have.  Thank you.

Yesterday, the US Marine Corps turned 236 years old.  One of their early actions has provided much of the rich history of the Corps and it’s a story I love talking about.  Up until 1801, the Berber Muslims were extorting the US…forcing us to pay a tax or have our ships attacked when they were near North Africa.  They eventually told President Jefferson that they were increasing the annual extortion fee, and he respond by sending the Marines and some mercenaries in to take care of business in 1801.

This battle is immortalized in the US Marine Corps hymn “…shores of Tripoli…”, the Marine officer sword, and even the name “Leatherneck”.

Our Marines and mercenaries sent to the Barbary Coast (Tripoli) wore coats with heavy leather around the neck so that their heads wouldn’t get lopped off by the Barbary pirates’ swords.  The name “Leatherneck” stuck, we beat down the pirates, took their sword design, and the  rest is history.  That’s a VERY condensed version of the story and I encourage you to read more about it when you get a chance.

Back to the newsletter…

As the saying goes, “No man is an island, entire of itself.”  While the saying is almost 400 years old, it is still as applicable today as it was then.  And even though, in it’s original context, it referred to the fact that the death of another man…even perhaps a stranger…impacts everyone around them, it is also very applicable in a survival and preparedness context.

“Preppers,” or those who take the Boy Scout motto of “Be Prepared” to heart on a daily basis, are an odd bunch.  Of course, I can say that without hesitation or concern about offending anyone because of the fact that I’m obviously a prepper myself 🙂

In short, we try to do everything possible to make ourselves more self-reliant and less dependent on systems and people who might fail in a disaster situation, but in the process of trying to stock up and learn how to do everything, we realize that we just can’t do everything by ourselves.

There’s a natural tendency to want to find other like minded people.  Actually, “tendency” is the wrong word.  “need”, “hunger”, or “yearning” are more appropriate descriptions of the primal urge to find a group of people to band together with.

It’s a humbling feeling when you’ve started to prepare and realize that you just don’t have the time to learn all of the skills or the money to buy all of the gear necessary to be able to survive on your own.

Even if you do happen to have all of the skills, money, and time necessary to be a one man army, when you’re alone, you’re limited by how much you can carry, you’re vulnerable when you’re sleeping, and you can’t heal yourself up if you’re critically injured or critically ill.  And, even if you don’t sleep and never get injured, what about when a group of hostile people crosses your path?

If your family doesn’t share your passion for taking prudent steps towards being prepared for potential less-than-ideal time, it can make the process of preparing even more lonely and make the need to find other like-minded people feel even more intense.

These are all common feelings.  It’s why, historically, people lived in tribes.  It’s why communities were formed in the first place.  Ironically, it’s these same communities that were originally formed for stability in the form of efficient defense, commerce, and specialization that have grown to the point where they’ve made society as fragile as it is today.

Even with this great need to team up, there’s a constant concern about making yourself a target by sharing too much information with a stranger, a friend who doesn’t want to prepare, or someone who is excited about preparing today but who cools off in the future.

Even if you do find people who are like minded, keep in mind that almost all marriages are based on “love” and the participants think that they’re meant to last, but half still end in divorce.  That’s with 1 relationship.  If you’ve got a group of 4 couples preparing together, you’ve got 8+7+6+5+4+3+2+1=36 relationships and the chances of conflict and “breakup” go through the roof.  Add in kids, and it gets even more interesting.

I cover several steps to take for forming a “mutual aid” group in the SurviveInPlace.com course, but I want to touch on a few here today:

· First, never feel like you need to tell the whole truth when you’re talking with people about your skills and level of preparedness.  Most people prefer dealing with people who under-promise and over-deliver anyhow.  Don’t look at holding back information as lying, but rather as setting expectations that you can easily meet at a future time.  If you have a year or two of food stored up, there’s nothing wrong with only saying that you have 40 days or 6 months of supplies.

· As you’re looking for people and developing your group, be nice.  If you think people like you because you’re blunt and always honest and say what you think…you’re probably wrong.  Sometimes, like when your wife asks if she looks good in a particularly unflattering dress, you might be better off lying.  Other times, relationships can be preserved or improved by practicing discretion rather than airing every possible problem and fault that you can find.  The benefit of voicing perceived shortcomings has to be weighed against harming or ending the relationship.  Some issues are worth pushing…most aren’t.  The process of choosing battles wisely is a skill—one that I’ve had to develop over the years and that I’m still working on.

·  Decide what the biggest personality traits are that you’re looking for.  Religion?  Politics? Positive thinking?  Patience?  Work ethic?  People skills?  Leader?  Planner?  Thinker? Empathizer?  These will be different for everyone.  Preppers come from all ends of all spectrums and you need to do some self evaluation to figure out what types of people you can and can’t tolerate.  Keep in mind that some of your traits may not be tolerable to others.  As an example, I can have pleasant conversations with socialists and communists and discuss prepping together, but it would be explosive for us to be on a team together trying to figure out long term planning, how to raise our kids, as well as simple day-to-day issues.

·  You may want to figure out a “cover” for your group so that it’s easier to bring new people in for evaluation.  It could be a church small group, a children’s playgroup where the parents talk while the kids play, a bridge (cards) group, a book club, a coffee group, running/biking group, investing club, or anything else that you can think of that is fun, low key, and will allow you to get to know people in a group setting.

·  Don’t make the mistake of equating how prepared someone is today with how good of a teammate they may be.  Good people are at all stages of preparedness.  If you’ve been a prepper for decades, you can help shortcut the process for others.  More important than how prepared someone is today in relation to you is whether they’re making specific, measurable, beneficial progress on a daily and weekly basis.  If you get together once a month and all the other person has done in the last month is “research stuff,” then they’re probably not a good fit.  If, on the other hand, they’ve taken action in the form of physical fitness, learning/practicing skills, and/or actually buying items, then it’s a good indication that they’re not simply all talk.

The next thing that I want to suggest is that you go over to the forum, look at the “local preppers” section, and either comment on an entry or start a new one.

PLEASE avoid using your first and last name, as well as divulging too much personally identifiable information.  There are wolves in sheep’s clothing in every venue…that doesn’t mean that you need to be paranoid, but it does mean that you should be intelligent about what you say.  In short, don’t say that you have anything to anyone who you don’t want showing up at your door asking for it.  In other words, if you’ve got a year of food, expect that anyone who you tell about it may show up at your door asking for some of it at some point in the future.

You’ll find that some people aren’t as concerned about OPSEC and hold regular meet-ups.  If you decide to go to one of these, I’d be particularly vigilant about keeping your cards close to your chest.

Here’s the link to the meetup section:  http://secretsofurbansurvival.com/forumdisplay.php?11-Local-Meet-Ups

I currently have a plan in the works to simplify and streamline this part of the site and will keep you updated as it progresses.

BIG News on the Flu

I received an email earlier this week from the Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy about what really happened with children who were reported of dying from H1N1 flu (swine flu) in 2009.

The study was of 838 child patients in 35 pediatric ICUs with a median age of 6 years old.  Of these, 75 died.

Here two of the major points that jumped out at me:

  1. 70% of the children admitted had a chronic illness.
  2. The biggest factor on whether or not healthy children admitted to the PICU lived or died was whether they developed a MRSA (drug resistant staph infection) within 3 days of being admitted.
  3. Whether kids had been vaccinated for the flu or took anti-viral flu drugs were not a factor.

Here are the other factors that increased the chances of dying of H1N1:  Being female, neurological issues, encephalitis, or myocarditis.

If you’ll think back to that flu season, you might remember that we were getting a steady diet of news reports on the latest death tolls from “the flu” and constant reminders to “get the flu shot.”  I don’t remember hearing the media say that the death tolls were, in fact, from chronic illnesses or from secondary infections.

For those of you who were getting the Urban Survival Newsletter back then, this isn’t news.  I was one of a handful of people who continually made the point that people didn’t die of the flu in 1918 or flu seasons since…they died of secondary infections.  I also shared several of the published shortcomings of anti-viral flu medications.

So, what do you do to keep from getting the flu?  The short answer is to take care of your body so your body can take care of you.  Get enough sleep, exercise, eat food that doesn’t hurt your body, keep your hands clean and away from your face, and get plenty of exposure to the sun.  Life happens and most people, including me, fall short in one or more of those areas most of the time.  That’s why I also take supplements.

Over the last few years, I’ve figured out the supplements that my body responds best to so that it can fight sickness without prescription antibiotics.  I dedicate most of a lesson to this topic in the SurviveInPlace.com,Urban Survival Course, but some of the core items are vitamin C, vitamin D3, zinc (Zicam), calcium, essential oils, grapefruit seed extract, sambucol (elderberry), and colloidal silver.  I also try to eat a lot more spicy foods and oregano during flu season and when I’m starting to feel my body fighting something.

These have worked well for me, and I started using them because they worked well for others, but that doesn’t mean that they’ll work well for your particular body chemistry.

In any case, I’d love to get your feedback on this week’s newsletter.  What do you think about teaming up for preparedness, as well as your thoughts on preparing for the flu.  Are you currently preparing alone or as a team?  Are you getting a flu vaccine this year?  Do you avoid vaccines like the plague?  Share your thoughts by commenting below:

God Bless & stay safe,

David Morris

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Vote -1 Vote +1Extreme OpSec
November 10, 2011 at 6:32 pm

My wifes mother lives with us. 🙁 She likes talking about everything, including what I’m doing, with her friends down at the local coffe shop. It is slow going, but I’m finding ways to hide stuff so that people living with me don’t know. I may still be new, but, security is complete, except for this post.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Extreme OpSec
November 10, 2011 at 6:48 pm

And, David, only said once, but, thought many times, thanks for the info. 🙂

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Charles Graves
November 11, 2011 at 8:42 am

David – I am 63 and have never taken a flu shot. I avoid them like the plague. Have recently been on an exercise regimen and watching the calories I consume and have lost over 30 pounds. Working to get in shape for half marathon with my daughter and small triathlon with her as well. Good article and good info.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Kaytee
November 18, 2011 at 7:54 am

I’ve avoided them since I got off active duty in 1983. Every time I got one (direct order to get them!), I got sick– maybe not “flu”, but certainly a reaction to the shots. Maybe it was the mercury or the squaline, neither of which “do a body good”.
Haven’t had the flu, either, despite exposure….

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1June Hines
November 11, 2011 at 9:20 am

Another thing to know is vit.D is the key i do this every day and last year was the first time I did not get the flu shot and did get the flu at all. of course I take vit C and several other vit also. I do a lot of home remedy also passed to me by my Cherokee Grandmother.
Have a great day

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Vote -1 Vote +1Frank Valentine
November 11, 2011 at 9:25 am

Regarding the supplements list above… there is a need to keep the magnesium/calcium ratio in balance. I up my magnesium intake on any occurrence of muscle cramping or constipation.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Anne
November 11, 2011 at 9:27 am

Hi
What is the very first thing I can do aside from getting in better shape? I do not have much money and my husband doesn’t get it. I have two children living at home. I also have horses and dogs to feed.

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-4 Vote -1 Vote +1curious
November 11, 2011 at 1:17 pm

The first thing you need to do is quietly cast about for a new husband.Next,unless you have you have permanent pasture,get rid of the horses.I don’t know what alfalfa costs a bale now,but in the 80s I was paying $85-$100 a ton.If you have permanent pasture,then by all means keep them.You can eat them later and use the leather.Same with the dogs.You might think that a dog will be a great early warning system.NOPE! A dog barking will only alert others to your position should you be trying to maintain a low profile.Using a horse to move? Remember,a horse is bigger than you are and doesn’t understand the concept of hiding.I could always find my buddies by whinnying,and their horses would answer back.So…sometimes less is more.

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+6 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
November 11, 2011 at 2:20 pm

Hey Curious…I normally agree with what you say, but I have to completely disagree with you on this one. I take the vow that I made to my wife seriously and can’t recommend that someone break their marriage vows over a difference in views on preparedness. It could easily be said that the marriage vow has eternal ramifications, whereas a lack of preparedness just might get you to eternity faster…but not have any effect on you once you get there.

For many people, horses are a part of their lives. If we ever see a time where oil gets prohibitively high due to supply or supply chains, then having horses, horse husbandry skills, and horsemanship skills would be very valuable. In the meantime, most horse owners will agree that they are a labor of love more than an “investment.”

In fact, this is getting to be a significant problem in some areas. With rising hay and feed prices, as well as drought, people can’t afford to keep their horses. Since there are no more horse slaughterhouses, that’s not an option anymore. Some are taking their horses to auction and abandoning them if they don’t sell. Others simply turn them out to pasture because they can’t stand the thought of killing them.

On dogs…barking dogs can alert others to your presence, but you wouldn’t catch me without a dog (or several). It’s my opinion, but for us the benefits of dogs far outweigh any potential negatives.

Via con Dios

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1curious
November 11, 2011 at 4:01 pm

Dave,I guess my attempt at humour about the husband fell as flat as a lead balloon.I am 72 years,married my wife when I was 18 and a lance corporal.We raised two sons,1 retired USN,1 retired USMC,and a daughter,Lt. police officer.My grandson is a deputy sheriff.Cancer took her 15 years ago.I was at her side holding her hand when she went,just as I did when we said “I do.” I have been in a number of situations where I have had to end someone’s tenure on earth,been shot at and missed-sh*t at and hit (actually got shot a couple of times.)Sorry that you have the impression that I might be a Godless person.I assure you that I am anything but.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
November 14, 2011 at 10:56 am

Understood…thanks for your service, your kids’ service, and the example that you set for them with your marriage 🙂

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rockwalls
November 14, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Your post about quietly casting for a new husband was the funniest thing I read all evening and I laughed my head off. I got your humor right away and knew you were joking. Thanks so much for the bit of wit, especially as it looks like the you-know-what will hit the fan sooner rather than later. I’d take you into my prepper group any day of the week because without humor, we’re all goners and God has the greatest sense of humor of all.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Missy
November 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm

I have to agree with you Dave. Marriage is a lifetime commitment and there’s always the chance that he may get on board at some point. Anne, you need to start with baby steps. Purchase an extra can or two of the things you use on a regular basis including pet food. Watch for sales and stock up on things like rice and beans. Find an out of the way place to store a few extras. Maybe the back of a closet, etc. And if you are a praying person, bring it before the Lord, because He can change the heart of a person. Don’t let it overwhelm you. Just do what you can. God bless.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Cpt Marvel
November 12, 2011 at 12:43 pm

David,
“I take the vow that I made to my wife seriously and can’t recommend that someone break their marriage vows over a difference in views on preparedness. It could easily be said that the marriage vow has eternal ramifications, whereas a lack of preparedness just might get you to eternity faster…but not have any effect on you once you get there.”
If only all would think this way or not get married, then it would not be a common occurrence today. You need to be close to your spouse in able to work with them during times of high stress and needs. The lady above, Anne, should gently coax her husband by doing what she can, when she can. In time she will win him over.
Even doing a little is better than doing nothing. Having a penny a day is better than waiting for a dime that may never come.
Also, why not raise a beef or two while raising horses, and/or a few chickens?
Anything you do now, will make your life easier in the future, regardless if the poop hits the fan.
Cpt

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Tess
November 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm

How: Take it slow and often. Meaning: Take little steps frequently toward preparedness. For example: Horse – what does the horse really need? How much lawn do you have? Grow an apple tree – horses like apples. I buy new trashcans and rubber storage containers on sale. They hold animal food quite well. You can repack some corn grain into mylar containers for the horse. If things get too bad, I would snack on the grain. I use to suck on the horse grain daily as a kid.

Dogs: Wheat and peanut butter as well as a lot of other stuff can go into a dog food recipe.

I feel a back up plan for water is so very important. I have a filter and a rough source of backup water if things get too bad. Somoe of our ponds, but not all go dry during a drought.

I would encourage you to get some bulk chicken and beef broth bullion. Stock up on seasonings. Add layers of rice and noodles also. Learn to you a gun and have access to a few.

Just get started. Stay on it, and before you know it, you will be doing what I am doing right now. I am relocating the bed in the 2nd bedroom to the living room. The spare bedroom is now a prep closet.

Good luck Anne. Get extra meds for your kids ( RX, ear meds, tooth ache meds, aspirin, diareahra medicines, etc.). There is a lot you can do in the OTC medicine market.

Shop on the web for vet supplies – pencillin for pets, etc.

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Vote -1 Vote +1MP
November 12, 2011 at 12:11 am

A website I recommend looking at is Mercola.com, Dr. Mercola secializes in natural /alternative medicine and speaks out adamantly against vaccines and the polypharmacy model of modern medicine. One of the things he says you can do to help yourself out dietwise is to cut out fructose from your diet as much as possible. Also cut out grains as much as possible since many people have a gluten intolerance and the sugars in grains can cause insulin spikes, just like fructose, which can lead to insulin resistance, which can cause all sorts of health issues. One might wonder if you can rent horses out for things like parade use or what not. Besides serving as alarms, dogs serve as companions, which can do away with the stress that can kill you just as fast as anything else

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
November 14, 2011 at 10:58 am

Joe Mercola is a personal friend of mine. We don’t see eye-to-eye on all things politically, but I credit him with helping me through some rough health issues.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Big Blue
November 11, 2011 at 9:41 am

David, I’d like to expand on a point you made. Vitamin D is far more effective than vaccines when it comes to preventing the flu, but you have to know what you’re doing. According to a number of authors and experts, elevating your blood level of 25(OH)D over 50 ng/mL is the key to an immune system able to stand up to any flu attack. Regular blood tests don’t include this; you usually have to request it specifically. Sometimes your docotor will question why you want this but you simply have to insist on it. Most people have a 25(OH)D level in the 10 to 25 range which leaves you woefully vulnerable. If you take 5000 to 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day for 3 to 6 months, it normally will put you in the healthy range. But don’t stop there: Keep taking it. If everyone in the world did this, not only would the flu almost disappear but serious chronic diseases like cancer, heart attack, diabetes, MS, and many others would drop by over half. Yes, you heard me right. There are many other things you can do to stack the deck in favor of optimal health, but vitamin D happens to be easy, extremely low cost (under 10 cents a day), and is without risk. I haven’t had a flu shot in several years, my vitamin D level is 75 ng/mL, haven’t had the flu for many years, and even my kids don’t get the flu even when it’s “going around”.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
November 11, 2011 at 10:03 am

Thanks, Blue! I’d add in that D3 is generally considered to be the gold standard for vitamin D supplementation and that anything that says “Vitamin D” without specifying “D3” might not do you much good. The RDA for vitamin D is 400-800 IU per day. When you see something that says “100% of the RDA”, it usually means that it has 400 IU. I take 20,000 when I don’t get sun exposure or am coming down with something. 20,000 IU is about how much your body makes after a few minutes of full body sun exposure.

Too much ingested vitamin D can cause permanent kidney damage, so it’s important to watch your intake and/or do blood testing. As always, make sure to talk with your healthcare professional.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Tess
November 11, 2011 at 6:46 pm

I go through phases when 20,000 IU of Vit. D is not enough. Not sure why, but I do not assord the vitiman like I should. My doctor discovered the trouble after 5,000 IU twice a day would not cure severe leg cramps. Now, I sort of use the cramps as my sign to when to add extra. I am surprised that the sun I do get is not enough.. Glad I know this now, than later when the SHTF.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Smith
November 12, 2011 at 10:37 am

I am a medical professional and I would correct only one point of yours. Many doctors now are routinely screening for Vit D levels. I work in a laboratory and I see many orders for Vit D levels.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Martin
November 11, 2011 at 10:32 am

David, as usual, great article. What we do to avoid any illness is try and stay away from large groups of people. We try and shop in town very little during the flu season by stocking up prior to winter. This also helps us as the winters here are pretty severe and this way we don’t have to drive so much in the snow. I know most people would look down on this, but we also take a shot of liquor as soon as we return from town. When we leave a doctors office, we always use anti-bacterial wipes on our hands, which we keep in each of our vehicles. We do the same after leaving any store. We are big fans of colloidal silver, and I use 15 ppm every night as a mouth rinse.
Keep the newsletters coming, I learn from them all.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Micah
November 11, 2011 at 10:52 am

Our group is cards and dice games plus America’s Army online. This is fun and we can talk tactics w/o anyone getting annoyed. Our group is shrinking and we have lost some key Skills & functionality players. OpSec is important since we are not in a rural setting and many neighbors are liberal and anti almost everything we stand for except being loyal Americans, which is a clouded issue these days.. We have fun and are somewhat prepared at last inventory we could last quite nicely for 6 months or meager for maybe 8. New member candidate’s are few and far between. Thanks for the health and wellness info!

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Vote -1 Vote +1FloridaDave
November 11, 2011 at 11:00 am

Dr. Frank Shallenberger has written about the effectiveness of nebulized hydrogen peroxide to fight viral infections. I just purchased a battery-operated hand-held nebulizer for precisely this sort of contingency. He recommends the following resources for locating an alternative therapist: Look at the doctor referral sections on http://www.aaot.us, http://www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com, and http://www.acam.org.

I would like to know how to formulate an H202 mixture at home (we have to assume that physicians might not always be available). Also, could DMSO be a reasonable addition to the mix to increase efficacy? An educated and unbiased reply would be greatly appreciated.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Patti W
November 11, 2011 at 3:47 pm

Never ever mix hydrogen peroxide with DMSO unless you want to kill yourself and those around you…. Patti

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Vote -1 Vote +1Ron G
November 11, 2011 at 11:22 am

Your article was very informative about developing a group of like minded people. It would be great to be able to do everything, however, we have special talents and may lack skills and talents in other areas. I remember in other David Morris’s articles how important to having fun as well as dealing with the seriousness of prepping can be.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Di
November 11, 2011 at 11:22 am

Really great article. There is another thing we do in my family if we feel ourselves getting sick or if the people we are around are getting sick. This may sound funny, but it really works. We put hydrogen peroxide in our ears. Just the regular stuff you buy at the store. Let it bubble for a while, then turn over and do the other ear. I have been able to resist getting sick several times with this simple and inexpensive treatment.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Graham Pudek
November 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm

Thanks for a great article. I take a standard multivitamin as well as 1000 IU of Vitamin D3 every day. I avoid the flu shot like the plague as I have heard of people getting fatal reactions to it and do not want to be a victim. I resort to a healthy diet and exercise as well as frequent hand washing.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Regina
November 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Want to suggest that you make a point of finding contacts who meet your current needs (sells and services guns/ammo, truck farmers, veterinarians, physicians, your barber, etc.) When you need to form an actual team, you will know who to call, and they will know you. I have a number of projects going, and there is a neighborhood of excellent retired folks who don’t have anything better to do than look out for your property and talk about it at Andy’s all morning. They also tell me what’s going on elsewhere. Just build your contacts, and the team will take care of itself.

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Vote -1 Vote +1sweetpotato
November 11, 2011 at 3:52 pm

Just puttin’ in my two cents worth.
We have found the natural anti-viral L-Lysine to be very effective in preventing the flu.We boost our system with 1,000mg twice a day for a week in the early fall and continue @ 500mg twice a day through out the season..if everyone around us is ill, then we will boost it for another week. I have a neighbor who had a very painful episode of shingles,last year. she began taking it at the 1000mg twice a day…and after 5 days her shingles began drying and dissappearing. Both us have issues we don’t wish worsened by Flu shots.We avoid them.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Melba
November 11, 2011 at 5:04 pm

We are preparing by ourselves cause we can’t find others of like mind. Some of our family talks about being prepared but that is about as far as they go. As for the flu shot we are not going to get one because of what we have read.
Thank you for the very good newsletters and really get a lot from them.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill
November 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Colodial silver….The problem is deciding what type to take. Every manufacturer of colodial silver has different dosage levels. How do you know what and how much to take???/

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill
November 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm

Colodial silver….The problem is deciding what type to take. Every manufacturer of colodial silver has different dosage levels. How do you know what and how much to take???/

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Tess
November 11, 2011 at 6:47 pm

Pool shock! Don’t forget the need to recreate your own bleach!

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Vote -1 Vote +1K Johahn
November 11, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Isn’t it a no brainer,,, there are so many different strains of the flu,,, Doctors won’t let their kids take the shots for many more reasons… Consider the powers that be want you dead for many more reasons than those in the flu topic.. How do you feel about the possibility of a homing pellit injected with your flu vaccine? I thought so !! Not to mention if you try to remove it ,,, it will kill you… It’s time to get real close to God folks!!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Delight
November 11, 2011 at 9:29 pm

Colloidal Silver – 1/2 to 1 Tablespoon up each nostril taken at the first sign of a flu or cold really knocks it down.
Also look up Dr. Richard Schulze’s Super Tonic on the internet. GREAT FORMULA!
ALL Flu shots use thimrosil as a preservative which is 50% mercury to my understanding. Ask your health care provider to see the ingredients list before you take any immunizations.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
November 14, 2011 at 10:55 am

That may be WAY too much colloidal silver. I use colloidal silver, but you have to be VERY careful with the quality and quantity that you use.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Gab
November 12, 2011 at 1:45 am

I have been blessed with the ability to prepare for myself and for a
handful of others . With that said , most people around me are I’ll equipped
to weather a difficult time. I do have a handful of friends that are thinking along the same lines as you and I . So I will formulate a list that gives me the ability to determine weather or not to approach these folks to be part of a team if the s hits the fan. I am still concerned about confidentiality . So I propose that all other prepers form a list of possibilities and a list of probabilities . This way you can determine those who are obviously in the camp and those that MAY be in the camp. The only way to know is to get to know those who may be prepers but not willing to let you know they are. It can be difficult but to survive if things get really bad we all must have a group of like minded folks to come along side. Blessings gb

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Vote -1 Vote +1c
November 12, 2011 at 3:50 am

I ALWAYS REJECT THE DEADLY FLU SHOT

KEEP ON PREPPING 😀

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Vote -1 Vote +1Dave W.
November 12, 2011 at 6:48 pm

I know of 5 people that have died from the flu shot.All 5 died from pneumonia.A side affect from the flu shot.So I say no thank you.I know over 100 people that had the flu shot and still got the flu.What was the point of the flu shot when they still got sick?Some say they got it realy bad and some stuck in bed for days from it.When you start to get sick have a drink of hard liquor.The alcohol in you blood will kill pathogens and stop you from getting sick.I doit and it works.A co-worker started to get the flu.He got drunk like I told him and got better fast.He never missed a day of work.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave W.
November 12, 2011 at 7:15 pm

I have extra food.I have 9 extra guns that I can arm 9 trusted people with.And I would still have 4 guns on me.Urban Survival isn’t my only on-line resource.I use many.The best think I like about Dave Morris is he covers things that some never even thought of.I stocked up on MRE’s.If there is nothing to eat and need a meal I have it.2 of my kids will not eat them.It makes them sick.I am glad Dave covered this.I would have never gave it a try.Then my 2 kids would go hungry when the normal foods ran out.So I change to freeze dried foods.It has a longer shelf life and everyone can eat them.And heating up water is no big deal.
We need to get a chat room going.I would like to meet others and see how they are stocking up.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Wolverines
November 12, 2011 at 7:26 pm

David, I’m 64 & my wife is 59. We’re both not in very good health, but I’m trying to prep for both of us, on a very limited income. I haven’t found anyone locally, that sees the handwriting on the wall, like we do. Would love to meet some “like minded” people in the North Dallas area.
We don’t take any vaccines, since I saw a show on tv, about a conspiracy to get rid of us old folks, that can’t pay much taxes anymore. Hitler called people like us, “useless meateaters”.
I don’t intend to go out quietly, when big brother tries to round up the patriots. I’d rather die on my feet, than on my knees. (unless I’m praying, that is)
Thanks for the tips!!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Chuck
November 12, 2011 at 11:47 pm

Thank you for the fine article Mr Morris! You are doing yoemen’s work getting the word out and my wife and I apreciate it. As far as meeting with other preppers goes, while we think it is a good idea we both are having a hard time with the whole trust issue, heck I am worried the Fed-Ex guy and some of his buddies are going to come knocking or kicking at our door because the company we buy DH/FD food from marks the outside of it’s boxes! so much for OPSEC there! And after being badly burned several times in personal relationship’s, both intimate and friendly, I find it hard to open up and expose us like that, I mean if I choose badly in picking a girlfriend I end up with some heart ache and legal trouble, I pick badly with this and end up getting my wife and I killed for our food and equipment, or because the first time a looter throws a rock through a window someone freaks and shoots one of us by accident! those are ugly thoughts and maybe I have watched to many bad Zombie movies but really how do you ever know how someone will react in a SHTF situation? I have trouble sleeping a lot thinking that if I screw this up I could get my better half killed and it is weighting on me mightally! any help you could give would be great Mr Morris and all the other poster also let me know what you think, thanks for reading this depressing post, Chuck.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1libby
November 13, 2011 at 8:40 pm

I have only got the Flu 2 times, the first when I was expecting, not planned and definately not prepped for, and the second when I got the flu shot. I have researched a lot of info. and was horrified by the information, the reactions and they now admit it is a guessing game about what strain to make before the season to have it in stock and it may not cover the strain you get. Like the vacines they push on the public they don’t tell all the truth and you have to dig. There is now, in some circles, speculation that they are adding or planning to add several things they aren’t saying anything about to alter DNA. I was admittedly confused until I ran across a number of transhumanism sites that speculated about changing DNA via an injection delivery. Depending on your level of paranoia I could see the government deciding to help people along and use people as guinea pigs without telling them. If nothing else they wouldn’t have to fund offical studies. I rather not participate in that thank you. The Flouride was enough! I generally rotate through different supplements to avoid overdoseing, not to mention it’s easier to pay for that way.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Carol Roberts
November 16, 2011 at 6:36 pm

I had been taking several vitamins, until the mulit vit I was taking didnt taste right. Equate over 50 Multi vit, just no longer had that vitaminy taste. It alarmed me. The I heard or read somewhere that these vit.’s are NOT good for us, so I took them all back spring Valley was the other brand I bought. I presently started purchasing some orgeno oil, magnesium and the only way I could get that in my body was to purchase this stuff called calm. I’ve had a terrible cough for 3 months, bought some chinese herbal stuff called lung clear, made my cough worse, but I suppose it’s meant too. Won’t dare have the flu shot, heard it had monkey pus in it, animal dna, and a whole host of bad stuff, plus LIVE virus.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Suzette Moore
November 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I know I’m late on the conversation (been busy)…. but anyone reading this: google vaccine/fetal tissue. It might shock some to know that aborted fetal cell tissue is used to grow the vaccines. They also use animal cells…something has to be used to ‘grow’ it in. I just have a problem with it either way. Abortion is an other issue that is a plight against our country, I won’t go into… But I don’t want traces of DNA injected into me, human or animal…it’s just wrong.

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