FEMA Detention Camps & Gun Confiscation

by David Morris on September 29, 2011

Welcome to this week’s Urban Survival Newsletter, brought to you by Jeff Anderson’s Social Chaos Survival Guide.

Here’s a question that I get fairly often: “There’s a violent knocking at door followed by command to open door and evict the premises by at least 5 uniformed armed military personal (not necessarily U.S. troops) possibly United Nation troops on Sovereign State territory. Followed by confiscation of all weapons and ammunition and packing victims into vehicles for transport to detention camps aka FEMA camps. What do you do?!”

Well, this brings up a few good points. This is a very serious matter. Right now, it has a low probability of affecting anyone reading this, and we can be thankful for that fact.

It’s important to start off by saying that most of my friends are in the military, law enforcement, work for alphabet soup agencies, or are private contractors. They all took oaths to defend the Constitution and take their oaths seriously. They love America, liberty, individual rights, and recognize that the right to defend yourself is a right given by God and not government.  In fact, I’m quite confident that if there ever was a roundup of Constitution supporting “God & gun” types that many of them would be seen as more of a threat than me and rounded up first.

Besides my friends, I have had mostly good and fair interactions with law enforcement throughout my life and when I see law enforcement that I don’t know, I *usually* see them as more of a potential friend than as a potential threat to my liberty.

Unfortunately, we know from Katrina and the news that not all law enforcement personnel understand the Constitution, respect individual liberty, or take their oaths so seriously.

Fortunately, as a result of what happened after Katrina, many states have passed laws prohibiting confiscation of firearms, even in disaster situations and after martial law has been declared.

Most of the problems that I’ve seen with law enforcement in the US in the last several years haven’t been because of rogue actions by front line law enforcement, but rather front line law enforcement following policies, like the overuse of no knock warrants, that I consider questionable, at best. Rogue actions definitely occur in departments across the US, but I still see the bigger problem being bad policies and not bad officers.

So, I’m going to interpret the question as if it’s NOT US troops or law enforcement that we’re talking about, but foreign troops.

It could easily be UN troops or Chinese troops protecting their investment after an EMP attack, a cyber attack that knocks out electronic banking, or a breakdown in civil order after an economic collapse.

If that was the case, then the situation that we’d be in the middle of wouldn’t be like Katrina. It would be comparable to what the French Resistance experienced during World War 2 or, what any nation experiences after they are invaded by a hostile nation.

It would be time for setting up multiple weapons cachs or caches away from your house, (depending on whether you prefer the French or English,) and even having guns and ammo that you are willing to give up if confronted to avoid a fight where you’re probably out gunned, out numbered, and out armored.

The important thing to remember is that militaries and law enforcement around the globe have years of experience finding weapons caches. If they suspect that you have weapons hidden on your property, it’s pretty straight forward for them to demolish it with a dozer and dig up your property with a backhoe. If you hide weapons in your home, you want to do it with thieves and looters in mind…not thinking that you can effectively hide them from police and military. Anyone who’s found caches in Iraq & Afghanistan can vouch that with enough time and resources, weapons caches WILL be found if they’re in your house or on a small lot.

Back to having a gun to give up…If you’re a member of the NRA, have a concealed carry permit, are a hunter, or are a competitive shooter and we are occupied by a hostile force, your claim that you don’t have weapons will simply fall on deaf ears. Make sure that you have at least one firearm and ammo for them to “find” if you know that weapons confiscations are happening.

History has shown us that neighbors will turn on neighbors in situations like this, so if you haven’t shown your firearms to your neighbors, keep it that way. If you have, you might want to tell them that you’ve sold some of your guns because of the economy.

Keep in mind that if we find ourselves in a situation where we are occupied by a hostile force, the last thing that you want to do is escalate a conflict where you live. Rather, you should set up a situation where you aren’t a target to start with or make sure that you have nothing to find, other than what you freely give up, if you do get searched.

The second part of the question was about getting rounded up and sent off to FEMA camps. This could play out in one of several ways, but you’ve got to decide whether it’s in your best interest to go to the camp or if you’re not willing to go.

A few weeks back, I commented on FEMA camps…in my mind, the whole FEMA camp thing is kind of like a rabbit hole that connects to a worm hole that drops you into a teleportation deck that leaves you in a house of mirrors.

There are supposedly over 600 FEMA prison camps that are fully manned 24/7, the largest one reported to hold 2 million people. A few of these sites that are reported to be FEMA prison camps have barbed wire pointed in.

Unfortunately, any truth that there is about the FEMA camps has been warped and twisted to where I don’t believe either side and I think people are lying whether they say there are no FEMA camps or 650. It’s one of those things that I just don’t have the bandwidth to spend time on because I don’t see any benefit, other than curiosity, of categorically proving them true or false.

I DO know that people have tried to centralize power and subjugate the masses throughout the ages and will continue as long as man is alive. They’ll do it whether they have FEMA camps or not. The presence of FEMA camps doesn’t make me less safe and the absence of them doesn’t make me more safe. Either way, I’m going to continue to vote for limited government and personal liberty. And if FEMA or some other entity decides that I’m an “undesirable”, they’ll figure out how to take care of me regardless of whether they have 650 prison sites or none.

Do I find the storyline fascinating? Yes. Does the thought of it being reality bother me? Of course! But I KNOW I’ve got control over a lot of things that will help my family through much more probable events like hurricanes, earthquakes, and other natural and man-made disasters.

So, regardless of whether we’re talking about FEMA camps, Chinese re-education camps, UN political re-alignment camps, or something else, if you’re not willing to go, then you need to make sure that you bug out as soon as they start rounding people up. Simple as that.

If you wait until they show up at your door to decide that you don’t want to go, then you’ve severely limited your options and your chance of having a good outcome.

As I said earlier, we’re blessed that these aren’t high probability situations in the US and that there are MANY other things that will benefit more from our continual attention and energy, like putting a broad based preparedness plan in place that will benefit you not only in the event of low probability extreme events, but higher probability disasters like fires, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, terrorist attacks, and economic problems.

Want to know more about how to quickly and easily prepare for martial law?  I strongly encourage you to check out my friend, Jeff Anderson’s Social Chaos Survival Guide.

What are your thoughts on foreign forces in the US? Good fodder for fiction? Possible? Probable? What events do you think would need to happen to trigger it? Please share your thoughts by commenting below:

Until next week,

God bless & stay safe!

David Morris

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1melanie
October 2, 2011 at 7:30 am

I learned a long time ago, the only person you can really count on in this world is yourself. Make no mistake that when push comes to shove, you WILL be standing alone. If you DO NOT prepare for whatever, you are not very intelligent!!!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Willy
January 15, 2012 at 7:37 am

Please call each campaign today and demand that these four candidates stop stonewalling gun owners on important Second Amendment issues.

Make your calls right now:

Newt Gingrich: 678-973-2306
Mitt Romney: 803-575-0698
Rick Santorum: 603-518-5199
Rick Perry: 855-887-5627

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Vote -1 Vote +1Galicant Bailey
January 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm

You could contact Ron Paul and tell him thanks for being pro-gun pro-constitution. Hope your all pulling for a libertarian and a peaceful revolution.

ronpaul2012.com

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Vote -1 Vote +1Tom-Hazleton,Pa
October 2, 2011 at 8:24 am

First off, if foreign armed troops are on our soil, why aren’t we doing something about it? It doesn’t matter where they land, there are more armed civilians in this country then there are military and police personnel. If invading troops hit our shores, or land a plane most likely civilians will be there first, followed by police, and then military. Reading this, I realize most people aren’t prepared to mentally handle that question of what to do. My first response was get out of your house with as much equipment as you and your family can carry by vehicle and later foot. Guns and ammo included. Be prepared to be persued, and to defend yourself and your loved ones with everything you have. While I do believe it will be more of a disaster situation that affects human beings, I don’t discredit the possibility of a government take, not specifying which one! In some of the articles that I have read, I also don’t discredit the fact that a natural disaster could lead to a hostile take over, such as the next major hurricane. In either case in my surviveinplace plan, or evac. plan I’m thinking of the black suits with no identification showing up looking for weapons and “enemy personnel.” Bare in mind, I’m not crazy, and I’m not looking over my. In fact, just the opposite, I’m a student enrolled in a college course of Criminal Justice, planning to join the law enforcement field.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Larry Reid
October 3, 2011 at 3:29 pm

There are already German airforce, and fighter aircraft @ the Alamagordo N.M. Airforce Base. Who knows how many more non- U.S. troops the Politicians have brought in.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dan
October 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Larry, I was in the USAF from 1975 to 1983. At that time we had German, English, Italian and Iranian Air Force personnel at most bases here in the states. They come here for advanced pilot training and we were providing technical training for ground crews. I met people from most of the NATO member countries. Note: the Iranian personnel were from the pro-American Shah’s forces at that time. So it is not unusual to see foreign troops on US bases.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Carol
January 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Palatono ordered 3 Russian Brigades Feb. 2010, they landed in Calif. May of 2011, skyped pictures of thousands of white vans were parked behind the base in Jacksonville Fl, and when discovered, within a week, they were all GONE. Russians are in Calif. Fl. TN and I believe TX. No telling where else they are. Now I’ve heard there are Chinese troops too.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Martin
January 17, 2012 at 1:31 pm

I don’t have any first hand knowledge, but I’m told by someone I trust there are 1000′s of UN troops in training in Nampa, Idaho. This source says he has seen them and and believes they are throughout the US. Again, I haven’t seen them, so who knows? I do believe, like Dave, if there ever is such an incident, it probably won’t come from our police and military. Unlike obama, they believe in the Constitution and their oath to abide by it. The recent incidents of the feds violating the Constitution (Operation Gun Walker for one) came from high up in the administration and if not for the grunts on the ground, we probably wouldn’t have ever heard of it. If something as serious as Martial Law raises is ugly head, from my experience of 31 years in law enforcement, my belief is it won’t come from those who took the oath to defend the Constitution.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Slide
January 29, 2012 at 2:13 pm

Hey,
Don’t blame Obama – the crap started going down with Bush and his personal alliances in the mideast and the introduction of “His” Patriot Act.

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Vote -1 Vote +1james
February 5, 2012 at 8:41 pm

Tom,
There are plenty of foreign troops on our soil right now. The obama administration has given tens of thousands of acres to the Chinese in Idaho where they have built their own communities, it’s now considered foreign soil. They have over 50,000 soldiers at one such community, with armored vehicles and personnel carriers. Also, almost all ports in the US are now owned by foreign powers and guarded by their militaries. It’s not “if” it will happen, just “when” will they try it?

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1davidmobile
February 6, 2012 at 7:15 am

James,

Fortunately, I can tell you that someone fed you a load of B.S. about the 50,000 Chinese troops and APCs in Idaho.

There’s partial truth to the rest of the items, but even they are over statements. I want to suggest that, before you lose sleep at night or cause others to, that you verify items like this.

We’ve got SO many clear and present threats that have been verified that there’s absolutely no need to muddy the water with rumors.

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Vote -1 Vote +1deadheadfred
May 3, 2012 at 11:45 am

I have seen some really good comments here and some not so good ones. In my opinion anyone who has posted any of their plans on the internet has already screwed those plans up, so, most important thing is to start teaching our children and granchildren just how deadly the web can be to ones life and liberty, which i consider one in the same.
Lets face the truth, the web is a great source of information, but it is also a collection source for the goverment to easily get information on people it normally would have to do lots of leg work to get. people feel safe running their mouth on the internet in the comfort of their home, and feel this internet thing is just as safe as a baby kitten, but us thinkers know the truth behind the “net”, it is exactly what it says it is, a net. Every site you visit every word you say is monitored, they have programs to pick out key words, so you start running your mouth and “uncle” ( the people of cambodia can tell you first hand about “uncle”, It aint uncle sam either). WILL come for a visit. Im not delusional, just a realist. People have been rounded up for hundreds of years by their goverments, America is not immune from this. Be ready, is all you can do. Im to broke down to fight to far but my family is being prepared by me to save themselves, i will hold’em off as long as i can. for them to get what they can and get out. God Bless the real American patriots who still believe in the constitution, the right to bear arms and the pursuit of liberty and happiness for every man and woman of all races.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Sailorman Andy
October 2, 2011 at 9:36 am

There are several things that will have to happen as “government” takes complete control. The reduction of those who will oppose them will have to be initiated soon after as many arms as possible are confiscated. Over the long term there will have to be work camps in order to provide sustinance for those interred. Otherwise, as came about in the prison camps of the past, starvation will reduce the number of those who are incarcerated. We only have to look into the past to see where we are headed if we don’t stand for our freedoms. Short term food and water supplies will only provide a little respite before having to make the descision to either resist or comply, and those may be confiscated if not secretly and safely hidden. These are the reasons we have planned for long term survival with hidden sources that we provide for ourselves. Of course they will eventually find me, but they will be met with resistance. I realize that each of us who resist will be met with unlimited force, so being right with God makes it easier to stand up and at least take some of your enemy with you when you go. I’ll let God sort it out when the time comes. I’m a Navy veteran who, like the rest of our remaining patriots, honor the constitution and my duty to defend it and what it stands for.
The declaration of Martial Law may be sooner than expected as people like those in New York become more violent with their protests. It’s clear that Obama and his communist friends would like to prevent having to vacate their cushy positions and they are running out of time as a complacent population begins to awaken.
As for Ron Paul, looking at his past record of constitutionality, he stands head and shoulders above others seeking the presidency. On the Iran issue, how do you think we can prevent their eventual escallation into the Nuclear world ? Why spend millions of dollars and unlimited time and still have no real control? We need to get our noses out of other countries business and take care of our own problems, and compliance to our constitution is the first step in that direction. If we have a legitimate election, we will be rid of the current problem in the Whitehouse, but it will still take years to recover even if the interrment camp senareo never takes place.
For God, Family, and Country, Andy

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Vote -1 Vote +1Freeme2742
October 11, 2011 at 2:30 am

Well said Andy. The government has had join training ops with many foreign countries over the last decade and before. UN troops are already here in Arkansas, German troops, Russian troops and equiptment from all above, in addition, Mexican and Canadian troops. The Government knows that x percentage of the US Army will not participate in dearming the American people since the Constitution gives the American People the right to own and bear arms, also to over throw a government that oppresses the constitutional rights of its people. No Americans want to think of such a terrible thought, however I see ever clearly that this is going to happen, the Government is pushing the buttons of the people and hoping that some faction will step out and take up arms and resort to violence so they can justify their actions. Further the division along racial lines is being used to cause great tension among the people.
Fema camps are real, and I believe the government after another false flag disaster of great proportion will use the event to declare martial law. The gun toting , bible clinging people will be the first sought after. Then the x military, or visa versa, then the libertarians, the constitutionalist, ect.. Preparation is paramount.

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Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 9:40 am

Andy, I hope and pray you live nearby or at least relocate adjacent to my farm in Texas.
Well said and well recieved.

Thank you

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Vote -1 Vote +1Shirley
January 12, 2012 at 5:35 pm

So far as getting Ron Paul into the whitehouse, that is not likely – as the shadow government has ALWAYS put the president in, Elections have very little to do with it. And witness what happened to JFK when he wakened and opposed them! we should be standing up to get the UN out of the country and our country out of the UN, as a beginning. You are right about relying on God, as A christian I know He is in control, but we are to stand up for the right! And obeying Him is the first thing in each individual life. He can save the USA if there is a turning to Him and living in obedience in every detail of life.

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Vote -1 Vote +1norman
January 13, 2012 at 11:23 am

I’ve said this on other websites, so I’ll repeat it here. Qouting Mexican revolutionary Emiliano Zapata:” I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”

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Vote -1 Vote +1JJM
January 13, 2012 at 4:50 pm

This Freedom and Liberty lover could not handle imprisonment even if truly for my own good.
“So, regardless of whether we’re talking about FEMA camps, Chinese re-education camps, UN political re-alignment camps, or something else, if you’re not willing to go, then you need to make sure that you bug out as soon as they start rounding people up.” Guess I’ll bug up to a camp in the brush, only to reappear after the initial round up is made and continue to remain low profile. Not much use to bug out to a place that is next in their sweep. Just hope whatever stash I can’t carry out will not be found and confiscated.

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Vote -1 Vote +1dw
October 2, 2011 at 10:39 am

look folks…I toyed with the idea that i should maintain a blog or website to tried and get the word out…these issues are critical and affect everyone…BUT…I feel i should bring to your attention my reasoning behind my decision not to do so…
Mr. Morris is a hero. he is putting his proverbial a** on the line with the feds everyday by maintaining this site for the enlightenment of his readers and the sales of his materials. People need to know these things, now more than ever! He is at great risk…but so are you!!!
Have you heard of Attackwatch.com where people report others that are talking badly about obama?
anyway…what i’m getting at is that the feds know about this site and you can believe that the will sooner or later if they aren’t already monitoring the ip’s and info about each of the individuals that post here or in any other site that promotes or discusses these and other issues that might suggest that the gov. is unfair, failing , oppressive, etc. Be careful and thoughtful…just remember that logs can be supoenaed anytime or confiscated surreptisously. AND YOU WILL BE IN THOSE LOGS!!! what easier way of locating those people that the powers that be will want to be placed into the detention centers? These days it’s not nessecary to confiscate connection logs…technology is very advanced…be careful…the web is NOT anonymous anymore…peace…forgive me Mr. Morris….it is a fact. i have more than twenty years in the field…G_d Bless America

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
October 2, 2011 at 7:33 pm

You’re giving bureaucratic agencies WAY too much credit. We’re talking about the same FEMA that has responded to disasters from Katrina to the latest Texas wildfires. It doesn’t matter how many top notch people there are on the front lines, they’re crippled by bureaucracy.

Were talking about the same local law enforcement that’s staffed one officer for every 4000-10000 people at any given time. They have a hard time responding to violent crimes as quickly as they/we would like during good times. When civil order crumbles and the number of calls for help skyrockets, do you really think they’ll have time for people who aren’t actively causing trouble?

Maybe so. But there are a LOT of higher probability concerns that people CAN take steps to prepare for right now.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Larry Reid
October 3, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Their real reason is a private army ( brown shirt style)

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Vote -1 Vote +1Adam
January 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm

You made me think of tehe paralell situation in the UK. Our government is so inefficent they wouldn’t know where to start with a round up.Unfortunately all gun owners have to registar each individual weapon in the UK and you cant byu a weapon without it first being authorised to purchase on your permit , so the duff gun to sacrifice idea wouldnt work here.
I’ve been following your election and I must say that Ron Paul guy looks pretty appealing to me. I like his idea of the USA leaving the attempt to police the world and concentrating on domestic issues for its citizens. TH eUK too punches far above its weight internationally but the real war is the war against crime in teh UK not the one far away in Afghanistan. It seems like whoever (except Ron Paul) will win your election this year, a false flag op to incite a war with Iran is on th ecards. And can someone tell me, doesn’t Israel have the most nuclear weapons in the middle eastand does it not hold the record for the middle eastern country with the mos incursions into other countries borders, why arent we threatening them?

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1DevilDoc1
January 13, 2012 at 9:18 am

Threaten Israel? The only viable democracy in the entiere middle is Israel! also why try to intimidate a country that has been quite effective in keeping their Arab neighbors in check. Maybe the US should stop being the 911 responder for the world — who do you suggest pick up the cudgle? China, Russia, FRANCE! :>)) The UK — the UK needs to start looking after it’s own citizens, allowing law abiding souls the RIGHT to own and carry firearms for self and or property defense as witnessed in the recent riots in London — compare that to citizens in Los Angeles a few years back defending their property and selves against the armed gangs. To stop being a nation of sheep. Katrina was a fluke — I think the actions initiated by their idiot mayor woke up a lot of people and not likey to be repeated again in this country very soon. Respectfully submitted for thought

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Vote -1 Vote +1Roger Buss
January 13, 2012 at 12:08 am

Just a note on Katrina –possible scenario= Katrina was artificially enhanced. Well within the technical capability of HARP. The response of FEMA was deliberately delayed until the masses screamed for the military . End of “posse comitatas” by precedent . It is technically possible , morally acceptable to the government and accomplishes a desired result that is essential and integral to their plan . They were either effective or lucky . Also on the subject of foreign troops . I think it was back in the late 80 s that the US Marine Corp was researched to discover whether or not individual US Marines would fire on US citizens . The research showed that they would not . Thus the need for foreign troops under the banner of the “UN Peace keepers”.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 13, 2012 at 8:30 am

I’m not entirely convinced of that chain of events in New Orleans. Katrina could have just happened and FEMA could have just gotten there slowly because they’re a bloated bureaucratic organization. That being said, the “wait until they beg us” approach has been predicted for the Fed and the next round of quantitative easing…that the Fed will wait until the general population is begging for help before they do another massive injection.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 10:02 am

Well, well, being scared of the future must be a mind-numming experience. Fear of one’s government is the first step to decadence and subjugation. Isn’t that stance the very reason we’re in our current economic crisis?

Stand up for your rights and be prepared to die defending those rights. Others did.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Shirley
January 12, 2012 at 5:37 pm

May America be obedient to God that she might be blessable!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill in Colorado
January 13, 2012 at 6:56 am

DW — It’s a good thing to be careful, but a regressive thing to be overly paranoid. When we get so afraid that we think we have to spell the name of GOD in some kind of code, like G_d, the other side, whoever they are, has already won much of the conflict.

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Vote -1 Vote +1dw
October 2, 2011 at 10:56 am

look….I’m not a big poster of comments. and i don’t want to disrupt your site or its conversations with my opinions. my apologies. I don’t trust the fed gov…nuff said there. But, i am suggesting that technology and the government’s use of it is such now that there is no privacy of information relative to online activities and discussion. be thoughtful but keep the good stuff encrypted and personal…not social.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Constitution Lady
October 2, 2011 at 11:33 am

This type scenario is one of the reasons I ran for constable. I wanted to have an ear to the ground in the event of SHTF and if necessary grab my family and get out before they started coming around. If we would be willing to step up and fill some of these positions, we would have a better idea of what the locals would be willing to do. Befriend your local sheriff, give him a copy of Sheriff Mack’s book, get to know him (and I mean really), find out what he thinks about these things, make sure he knows he has your back-up.Yes, these things take time and effort, but there are no easy fixes. In our state we had a project to get a copy into the hands of every county sheriff. I even gave one to all the candidates in my county in the last primary. Sometimes a little seed will take root!
Oh, and one other thing: when I first met one of the other constables several months after the election, he told me that “when I put on this constable’s badge, I check my conscience at the door.”
I’m pretty good at keeping a straight face otherwise I’d have been reaching down to pick up my jaw.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bruce
October 3, 2011 at 11:18 am

I know exactly what you’re saying. We used to live in a little town in Oregon, part of the LEFT COAST. I’m a Ham Radio operator with many years experience. I was once listening in on the local P.D. TAC channel when an officer said OVER THE AIR about a civilian, quote: “I would KILL ———— if I thought I could get away with it.”

My dear, your copncern is WELL FOUNDED!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Shirley
January 12, 2012 at 5:41 pm

Right! find out what the Sheriff is thinking! and get Mack’s book to HIm!

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Vote -1 Vote +1norman
January 13, 2012 at 11:32 am

Interesting that you would mention Sheriff Mack. At a freedom rally in San Jose, CA
some years ago I got up and told the audience about my anti-tax activities. I then held up a $100 bill and said that I was going to contribute it toward Mack’s political campaign, and that everyone in the audience should do the same. Within thirty minutes while the sheriff spoke I collected $3,500.00 including a check for $1,000. Today that total would probably be around $10,000.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1R.E. Riepe
October 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm

I have been receiving your email for awhile. What you are saying in this article will come to pass one day. One of my books on Amazon, The Las Vegas Worm Club, is a story about Fema camps and Americans surviving. The three book trilogy, the God Trilogy, also tell a tale of government takeover and citizen rebellion in a science fiction format. What I wrote in these books two years are frighteningly start to occur. I though events would start to happen in 2012 and not this fast. I can only speak for myself, but later this year I am moving out into the high desert near a small town. Here in Las Vegas no one will be safe or for that matter in any large city.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1David P. Dupuis
October 2, 2011 at 12:37 pm

How great it is to read true feelings from honest American’s. I am a Viertnam Era Vet and live with the thought of how great this country is and will be. All of the comments are telling each one of us, “yes I will be there to help and we will get through this and it is not going to be easy’” My God, trust is going to be so important and is going to be hard to find when we are going to look for it. People talk about groups, plans etc. but yet do we realize just who we talk to. The things that will happen will be so mentally and phsically hard to deal with that we will have to rely on each other. As true Americans you have to be able to give your life for the value’s of God and Country and also for the one’s you trust so much. Talk is cheap, but it will come down to that decision and will you be able to carry it out. When the time come’s, and it will, I hope 100% will stay with there decision to ”STAY THE CAUSE”. There is not greater feeling to have than the person next to you who will give himself just as you would for him, you feel almost unbeatable. There if a message that was left after the battle of Khe Sanh which read ” YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED, TIL YOU HAVE ALMOST DIED, AND FOR THOSE WHO FIGHT FOR IT, LIFE HAS A FLAVOR THAT THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW”. The initials RVN was with this message. May God be with us.

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Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 10:12 am

Sempar Paratus

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Vote -1 Vote +1ron
October 26, 2011 at 8:37 pm

very good points that you did make and something to really think about.
thanks, god bless

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick
October 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm

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Everyone is your enemy if they are on drugs, hungry, thirsty, etc. Remember a criminal is a person that makes unwise or wrong choices. I am NOT a doom and gloom person, my glass is half full, my preparation is per my situation. Life sometimes throws us a curve ball so be up for it. Just 169 mile WNW of my home is a camp ~500 acres center mass with 2×16 ft fences and 3 strands of concertina wire all around and a perimeter area of maybe 10000 acres with the same fences and a strand of wire. Signs around the perimeter say ‘No Trespassing by order of Homeland Security’ what will this be used for is unknown to me however my spine tingled when I saw the site and my first thought was ‘Hanoi Hilton’! My stand is on the original Constitution and the Bill of Rights, nothing else matters to me. If the SHTF EMP or otherwise give me a gun and ammo and I will be your rear guard as you bug out. I move slow with 2 bad legs however I shoot to kill not wound. If it happens may God protect one and all for it seems our government has no intention of protecting us in the least!!! Stay sharp, watch your sector, trust in God and live long

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jimbo
November 23, 2011 at 7:54 am

Sure would like to see the Lat/Long coordinates of that facility of which you speak so we can take a closer look via Google Earth.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Dan
January 12, 2012 at 9:01 pm

Now I know where all the border fencing that was paid for went.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Z
October 2, 2011 at 10:12 pm

Always think out side the box.Don’t just have a plan A and think you are all set.If you have plans A-D?Then you stand a chance.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bruce
October 3, 2011 at 11:23 am

You are a thinking person. BRAVO!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Broadsword
October 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm

Thanks for the newsletter. I was just referred here. First, ever since I was in Boy Scouts, I have been slightly obsessed with disaster/urban survival. Not an expert by any stretch, but very interested. Second, I believe that, in the event of the government going after its citizens to flush out “threats,” that they would face deadly resistance from those of us who are “armed and concerned,” and incur too many casualties. Besides, I think that too many law enforcement(police) would be sympathetic. I could be wrong, but, like New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina, certain “high value” areas would possibly be searched and weapons confiscated, but in my area (Los Angeles suburbs) there are just too many homes and apartments for the liberal politicians and their foot soldiers to go after. Most likely, patrols would stop and interrogate people on foot or in vehicles. There just aren’t enough resources to carry this out.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bruce
October 3, 2011 at 11:24 am

What if Obama calls on his Chinese army buddies secretly stationed in the “Toy” warehouses next to Edwards AFB?!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Slide
January 29, 2012 at 2:28 pm

OMG, LMFAO!

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Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 10:30 am

Are you dreaming? It’s a simple matter for authorities to wait until your food supplies run out and extinguish you as you come looking for scraps to feed your loved ones.

Go ahead, plan it that way but, I’ll guarantee you won’t like the results.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David
October 2, 2011 at 11:11 pm

David, I have a question, my wife is on an insulin pump. without a continous supply of insulin she will dye. We can’t stock up more than one month supply every twenty eight days. Is it worth being prepared to survive desasters or camps if we know that she will dye within a day or two of running out of insulin? I too am diabetic, but I only take medication and suplimintal insulin. If I watch what I exersice, I could go a little longer without my medication. However, I would probably develop serious complications. What plan should we make?

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
October 3, 2011 at 9:26 am

If it’s type II diabetes, I would suggest seeing a medical professional to get guidance about adjusting your diet and lifestyle to get completely off of insulin. This is VERY common now, and type II diabetes is increasingly becoming a choice rather than a condition that you have to live with.

If you do have to stay on insulin, you CAN get more than a one month supply every 28 days. You may have to pay cash for it, but several insurance plans will allow you to get a 90 day supply at one time.

Also, if you do have to stay on your insulin, talk with your medical professional about changes you can make in your diet and supplements you can take that will allow you to safely use LESS insulin than you currently are. You don’t want to screw around with this, but with proper supervision, you may be able to cut the amount of insulin you use every day by 2/3 with diet, supplements, and exercise. If you are able to do this, then the amount of insulin that used to last 1 month will now last 3 months. Likewise, if you get a 3 month supply, it could last as long as 9 months.

Again, it’s critical that you don’t screw around with blood sugar and that you get high quality professional guidance with this.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Diane
October 2, 2011 at 11:46 pm

Brother, by all means, we need to be prepared for anything at all things. Family first!
Being prepared before any disaster happens presents itself in your area, we need to have the peace of mind that we took all the necessary precautions that are available to us knowing that we have been warned over and over time and again. The bible is very clear about this. Only a fool will suffer the consequences and end up being destroyed, whereas we who prepared for a disaster should have no fear. We need to take all things into consideration that we are here for a purpose and that is to be prepared. Stock-up, pack-ip
or shut-up

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Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 10:41 am

No doubt about who will rule Diane’s survival group and she’s right on target.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Patte
October 3, 2011 at 5:59 am

The Rex 84 law during the Ronnie the Red Reagan administration set up a Gulag Archipelago of above and underground detention camps across America, the largest being under Denver Airport that is a third the size of the Panama Canal. Denver will be the new US Capital if Washington, D.C. is destroyed. The EPA and IRS have already relocated there. The murals on the walls of Denver Airport that are online tell what the plan is. Dead Christians (all ages) with crosses and Bibles with two soldiers standing over them: a Chinese looking soldier with an AK-47 and a Muslim with a curves sword (scimitar). Satan likes to reveals his plans in some way.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
October 3, 2011 at 9:19 am

DIA IS bizarre. I’ve had layovers or flown in/out of DIA half a dozen times this year and the place really makes me scratch my head.

Although I believe that someone may have told you wrong about the Chinese soldier with an AK and a Muslim with a sword. The soldier is actually holding an AK in his left hand, is stabbing a dove with a scimitar with his right hand, and he’s wearing a funky gas mask that hides his identity. (This isn’t a joke…that’s REALLY what the mural is. Do a google search for “DIA murals” and then click on “images” in the upper left hand corner of the results page to see all of the odd sick stuff.)

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-1 Vote -1 Vote +1bob wheeless
October 21, 2011 at 10:52 am

David, care to comment on the larger question of detention facilities and our new “Capital” site.
I’m interested but far from convenced.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1juan o aguirre jr
October 3, 2011 at 2:06 pm

why was jesse ventura taken off the air for good and why has the denver interanationa airport construction brought to light by the mainstreem media i wonder why?! could there be a connection? and byt the way the construction here at fort bliss has almost finished and its a huge base and boy they ar e going to pump lots of troops under the guise of base realinment does any one see a pattern emerging here? dia and the fort bliss constuction are to red flags the need to be address will anyone please address this

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Vote -1 Vote +1PK
October 3, 2011 at 3:25 pm

All the comments about Denver are so interesting, I live just west in the foothills. I’ve seen those murals in DIA… I think the most disturbing of all is the giant horse sculpture outside, it’s positively creepy! I heard that delivery of the sculpture was delayed because the artist was killed too. Everytime I see it I think to myself “wow, what a way to welcme people to Denver – scare them ..”

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Tom
October 5, 2011 at 11:05 am

I am a US Army veteran of two tours. I know for fact that the UN has a least 1 division including vehicles stationed at various locations one of the locations is Ft. Knox. You have to look for them, because they are not out in the open where everyone can easily see. Yes we have other countries troops including aircraft for training with and help these countries better defend themselves against terrorism. At least that is the reason they give. With that in mind I highly recommend people arm themselves now, while they can for the simple reason they will never have enough troops to go to all the homes and properties at the same time and word of mouth will travel at the speed of light if this happens. Being prepared is the best defense against martial law and any type of attempt to disarm the people of the USA. As was said in this article keep at lease 1-2 firearms that you don’t care if they get confiscated along with ammo for these firearms. I would definitely try and buy a piece of property that you can put into a trust and the excuse that will work perfectly is a hunting property. Unless you are some sort of major collector they will not waste time and effort to search 2-30 acres or more for the small possibility of finding 3-5 weapons. The black market will increase beyond their wildest dreams in an event of hostile takeover by another nation so you will be able to obtain almost any item you want. However, I plan for the worst and pray for the best and always try to be prepared for any type of disaster and the possibility of having to leave my home. To address being prepared, there are a ton of survival books and even more information on the internet and I would highly recommend and advise everyone with or without a family to always be prepared for any type of disaster, be it man made, (economic collapse), or caused by nature, (tornados, floods etc). You see contrary to popular belief, the people are the first and last line of defense. You can not and should not depend on the government to arrive quickly and start helping people. The only person you can fully depend on is yourself, even family help may be limited depending on the situation. I do realize that you can not prepare for everything, but, you can be prepared for a lot of situations, because preparing for one situation will cover several other situations. As for hiding firearms, ammo and other necessities yes you can put them in the ground in your backyard, but, that leaves them accessible to others. I would recommend that you use your imagination to its fullest and look on the internet for ideas or companies that specialize in hiding safes and even rooms, you will be happily surprised at how many and how good they really are at this type of work. God Bless and good luck your future might depend on what you do to prepare.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Karl Lea
October 18, 2011 at 2:59 pm

It has been my experience that when push comes to shove, most big talkers are little doers. When someone busts down their doors they are very likely to give up without a fight. Those who are actually do resist will in all probability lose quickly in a big way.

The executive orders passed over the last 70 years have set up the basis for the fear of a scenario like that outlined in the article above. With the declining popularity of Obama it is unlikely he can stay in office without either major election fraud (which isn’t unlikely) or a declaration of martial law. In the event of martial law those executive orders give him the right to set aside the constitution, suspend elections, confiscate vehicles, confiscate food and property, take control of the media and round up anyone he labels a dissident and put them into internment camps. As to whether these camps exist, I believe they do. And if they don’t then why is the Army training a new rating called Internment Specialists trained to act as guards for internment camps holding U.S. citizens. All it will take for martial law to be declared is a natural disaster or a terrorist attack, real or staged.

As for me, I am trying to learn how to live off the land and how to live without electricity or modern conveniences. I’m also trying stay off the radar, so to speak. I moved to a home in the middle of a major forest area and if they want to find my big guns or the food I have stored away, they are just going to have to dig up 150,000 square miles of forest.

I am unapologetic in saying good luck to you all and God Bless the United States of America!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bill in Colorado
January 13, 2012 at 7:23 am

Here’s a question for those here who think that the military will become our worst enemy if the top of the government decides to disarm all of us: Why do you think that the soldiers who have been trained to fight FOR freedom and liberty are going to become robots of the government, turn against their fellow citizens, the US Constitution, the posse comitatus act, etc., all argue against that happening. When we think of the government rounding people up to put into FEMA camps, why do we always think it will be those of us who are “most” American? Could it not be that the government, if they are preparing camps for anyone, are doing it for the many Muslims who see all of us as infidels and are sworn to kill us and take over our country? There is much documentation on this from the Muslim Brotherhood itself, and I do not think the government is blind to it.

Granted, the current occupier of the White House does not trust the citizenry, but I do not believe that we will face an organized US Military that uniformly, to the man and woman, will wilingly deprive other US citizens of their lives and liberty: They have sworn to uphold the Constitution, and I believe many of them will do it rather than “follow orders.” Even the Nazis only “followed their orders” in regard to the Jews among them, whom they saw as sub-human — not in regard to fellow German/Aryan citizens.

IF TSHTF, I am here and willing to defend, but I don’t think it will happen the way many here do. Okay, flame away … First Amendment is still in effect, right?

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-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Leonard M. Urban
February 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm

Well, it’s the people you refer to as the “most” American we saw beat an old woman and confiscate her antique .38 revolver as well as weapons from the homes of other Americans in the aftermath of Katrina. I think the promise of promotion, and a really good pension will be more than adequate compensation for some of our GI’s. Not all. But enough to make me uncomfortable…too, it’s been well established that last administration made a pact with Mexico and Canada to have their soldiers assist in the event of an insurrection here, and US soldiers would, in return, assist those countries in the event of insurrection in theirs.

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Vote -1 Vote +1ron
October 23, 2011 at 1:19 am

DW, you are right.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jan R. Hershberger
October 27, 2011 at 4:02 am

It’s all a part of their overall agenda. I have included this Excerpt to which I’m posting on many other different sites as well to maybe awaken up the American Peoples to maybe finally have them put their foot down so to speak? I also can’t understand why people like George Sorros and whomever else it deems necessary to relinquish their offices aren’t being brought up on charges of insurrection as well?
Greetings Robert,
There is one more stipulation We must discuss. The new World Order. It is talked about in a Book called “Hope of the Wicked” and in this book another book entitled: ” “The shape of Things To Come” By H.G.Wells and certain criteria is brought to ones attention. In this Second book the author states this New World Order, which was called “The Modern World State” back then in the nineteen twenties and thirties would succeed and will come about by something which would Occur/Begin in Bosra, Iraq. It is also noted/stated: although this world government had been Plainly coming for some years, and although it had been plainly feared and murmured against, It found no opposition anywhere.
Do you not recognize the nature of the facts of events now occurring starting within Iraq with the overthrow of Saddam Hussein then Afghanistan, and continuing? When are the people going to wake up? My advise to you is to pass on these words written herein quickly and prepare also as H.G. Wells also states this coming world statehood will be of communistic Principles.
H.G. Wells in another book entitled New World Order also written about in this book “Hope Of The Wicked”proposed a collective One World State or New World Order comprised of socialist democracies. He advocates universal conscription for service and declares that nationalist individualism is the worlds disease. He continues; the manifest necessity for some collective world control to eliminate warfare and the less generally admitted necessity for a collective control of the economical and biological life of mankind are aspects of one and the same process. He proposed that this be accomplished through universal law and propaganda or education,
The American Birth control league was founded in 1932 By Margaret Sanger and I wish to discuss her book “Plan For Peace” also covered in this book “Hope of the Wicked”. Back then, in the early twenties and thirties, in her book, she calls for coercive sterilization, mandatory segregation, and rehabilitative concentration camps for all dysgenic stocks including Blacks Hispanics, American Indian and Catholics. Does anything sound familiar concerning this today as you see the present camps being built throughout the United States?
Well I could go on and on writing to enlighten you of why various detainment camps are being built now, our educational systems have been taken over already by this group of people, why we are overseas at this moment and many other detrimental situations presently being enacted but unless you consider enacting/doing some kind of preventative measures now and fast it will be too late.
Mehujael
Greetings again Alexandria,
I write to inform you of just why this war in the Middle East is of another greatest value to this One or New World Order. It is to become a tool used for complacency among the Peoples of the Middle East to have them accept this New/One World Order in the future and in the achievement of this it will be to lull them into a false sense of Peace among each other. It is a temporary covering but one must look behind the curtains. Don’t worry though as I assure you there has been people put in place to lead them to wherein these One or New World Order delegation of subversives wishes them to head. In other words what direction these New/One World Order people wishes them to go once we withdraw our forces you can be sure of that. It is all part of their scheming plans to bring it all about. The trade agreements were instituted for this purpose as well and is written of in the book I relayed to you in my last excerpt. The book Entitled “Hope Of The Wicked”. There is also mention of this new trade agreement as well as the old one. All this is also to purportedly Take/Steal the Wealth from the Richer Nations and Spread this wealth to the poorer Nations thereby weakening these richer nations into com-pliancy as well.
There is no one looking ahead to see and place this all together and they have written as such in the words of; once the peoples have figured this all out it will be too late for them. I would hope you will take the time to enlighten the peoples of the world through your web site of this dastardly program now being instituted subversively and just maybe it mightn’t be too late but I fear it may be already. It is also written as to what they will do with the ones who have as well as continually oppose this new system being instrumented today and it is neither pretty nor good.
It is also scripturally written why this is all coming upon mankind but not in this book I have just spoken of. It is written briefly in this book concerning and about the G-D of my Fathers and this New/One World Orders intent concerning HIM though. They wish to eliminate HIM from Any type of existence including any material content as they have said to wit; mankind is in charge of his own destiny to preclude G-D in any way shape of form. I personally have a book in progress explaining the details concerning why the G-D of my Fathers is allowing this to come upon mankind. It contains some very harsh words but notably they are words of truth. If one wishes to know the truth then this book is for you as it spells it out with the correct answers for one with an accuracy and faithfulness. If nothing else it will be a wise achievement and direction for one to acquire and fully read this book throughout. The pieces to which I have included must be placed together like a hand in a glove to fully comprehend everything and is why I have noted to anyone wishing to read it to finish it thoroughly first.
Respectfully Yours,

Mehujael

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bob Anderson
October 29, 2011 at 9:39 pm

I think it would be giving to much credit to any Government agencie(s) to be coordinated enough, and to accumulate the necessary information, to accomplish anything like that. However, I agree with Lady Constable: for every decent LEO I know or have trained and shot with who was decent, there was a correspoding officer who was nothing more than a thuggish bully with a badge. As a Navy vet, same for servive personnel. While we all took the same oath to protect and defend the US and its Constitution, so don’t the members of the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branches – and we see how well many of them fail to follow their oath. As for UN troops, they would be foreign invaders to be met with deadly force. No other response would be remotely meaningful. “A lost cause is the only one worth fighting for”.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Glenn
January 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

If they come for what I have they will be treated as looters and thieves and leave with a bloody stump. If everyone puts up a fight they will not carry out their plans.

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Vote -1 Vote +11LessonSelfDefense.com
January 12, 2012 at 5:15 pm

Can we post these articles on our own site with a link back to you? I posted it on 1 lesson self defense.com and will take down if I need to. Thanks, Coach David

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 12, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Absolutely, David. Just include a reference back to this article, like you said, and you’re good to go. Thanks for the link!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bob Hamrick
January 12, 2012 at 6:17 pm

As a VietNam-era enlisted Marine, husband and father, I appreciate all of these comments. But the one thing that is conspicuously and tragically missing is an awareness that ALL of this is prophesied in the Bible. Anyone who would like to find out what our Lord Yeshua (“Jesus Christ”) PROMISED to those of his faithful disciples who would OBEY his commandments, and thereby SURVIVE the worst of what is surely coming, please check out our article on the subject:
(I removed the link…we have most of the religious conversations on the forum here: http://secretsofurbansurvival.com/forumdisplay.php?36-Christianity-Religion-and-Prepping)

ps: His name MEANS “Deliverance” in Hebrew!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick
January 12, 2012 at 6:38 pm

Actually if the USA defaults on it’s debt the UN or some other faction may wish to secure there assets located in our country. Nationalization of Corporations may be protected by the State and or Country however tangible assets such as mineral rights, land, etc. are not something that is normally nationalized! This is subject to International courts and thus laws beyond our borders and control!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Phil
January 12, 2012 at 6:52 pm

RESISTANCE IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
January 12, 2012 at 6:59 pm

LOL…wow…I could go down so many rabbit trails with that one.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill in Colorado
January 13, 2012 at 7:31 am

To whom?

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Vote -1 Vote +1norman
January 13, 2012 at 11:42 am

Phil: Freedom is expensive, but it is a bargain compared to slavery.

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Vote -1 Vote +1olwreckdiver
January 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm

If SHTF I know we won’t get out of major urban areas -roads will be bumper to bumper, storm channels, river beds (at least here in SoCal will be jammed with 4×4 trucks and SUVs.
After many years in public works construction, if I think SHTF is close I’m going to rent a couple or three trench plates -you know, the ones they put down in the street to cover open trenches, and get them leaned up against the front of my house. They are 1-1/2″ thick, so will stop most rounds and one could torch out a firing slot.
I really think most rioters and looters will just go on by.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Chuck and Heather
January 12, 2012 at 11:19 pm

Well don’t get lost down in that rabbit hole David, we need you up here doing more articles! although I do have to disagree on some points. There seem to be 2 main personality types as far as LEO’s go, the first is the “make the world safer” type, the second is the “power trip” type, the latter will be happy to help in confiscation, and sadly I think that some or a lot of the former will also in the false idea that it will make the world safer. As far as the military I do believe that some or hopefully lots will not obey such an order, but I am troubled by the amount of non-native soldiers we have in uniform. And I am not so sure it would be that hard to get a large percentage of the guns away from people, you don’t need to kick everyone’s door in, if you do a few here and there and have the media cover it, make an example out of some high profiles, then just sit back and wait for them to be turned in! between the big talkers getting scared, folks who think they are to old or sick to make a stand and husbands or wives going behind one or the others back to keep the family safe I think a lot will be handed over. And unless you buy all your guns through private sale I am not sure how well the decoy gun idea will work, Chuck.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Leonard M. Urban
February 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Am concerned about people I see divesting themselves of firearms because they’re unable to survive the economic downturn. They are desperate for cash, and I sometimes wonder if the crashed economy wasn’t planned for this very purpose. For a few months, I was among them, but as I’ve always had a decent collection, I sold only a relative few weapons, mostly rare revolvers chambered for proprietary cartridges. However, I had to stand in line at the gunshop to sell my weapons, and those ahead of me were selling weapons of a type that would be most useful in a scenario of the types discussed here.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Roger Buss
January 13, 2012 at 12:30 am

People are put to sleep one at a time . They wake up one at a time . Wake somebody up and then wake up somebody else . It is something that can be done .

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Vote -1 Vote +1Dave W.
January 13, 2012 at 4:50 am

You all got it right about the UN being here.The UN are going to make laws the the U.S. will have to fallow.We might have to fight or lose all our rights. America could fall to the UN without a fight.The UN wants us unarmed.Now what?

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Vote -1 Vote +1Robert
January 13, 2012 at 9:50 am

I have a comment to make about Dick’s message about the section of armed troops pounding on your door and then going to search for your weapons.

First — Why would they ever want to pound on your door when a suprise is more efficient?
Second — Once they’re in you house you will be rounded up like cattle and “escorted” to a waiting truck which you will not be given time to get your weapon to fire upon them.
Third — Instead of them coming to us why not WE go to them first? I we had intelligence of their training, i.e. location, time, types of equipment they will be using, live ammo(?) granades (concushion, fragmatory, etc.) Pepper sprays on them, not on us. Tasers for them.
Fourth — Makes better sense for us to strike them first and take all of their weapons for us to use against them. But it must be a coordinated operation.

What do you think? It might work.

Robert

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Vote -1 Vote +1norman
January 13, 2012 at 11:46 am

Good idea if it could ever work. Citizens organizing for mutual defense makes more sense, although a pre-emptive strike would be more effective.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Emergency Essentials
January 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm

Knowing what to do and being prepared is key. If you don’t know what to do you can have all the emergency supplies you want but what good will it do and like you said if someone comes and takes it from you then again it is worthless.

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Vote -1 Vote +1chic
January 13, 2012 at 6:16 pm

If there is martial law and troops of whatever kind start rounding up innocent citizens, the same thing will happen to us that happened to the innocent citizens of Eastern Europe in the late 1930s. We will be rounded up like cattle because are not organized, and cannot get organized without breaking the law. No paramilitary organization will be allowed to thrive.

The Nazi’s were out numered sometimes a thousand to one and still were able to Disarm, Disrupt, and Destroy.

I’m surjprised that Glenn Beck (on his radio show) and his urging of organizing hasn’t suffered severe sanctions.

Someday, after it all over, historians will wonder how so many Americans chose to be herded like animals to the slaughter, rather than fighting.

The trouble with free Americans is that we have no leadership, and will not be allowed to have leadership.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Galicant Bailey
January 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm

A few things to consider. Our own troops, most likely national guard, could be tricked into rounding up citizens. (Think Valkaryie) A biological threat, real or imagined could be the threat that is used. The national guard is called to duty and begins evacuating citizens to “medical camps”. A missle attack on those sites elimanates both the soldiers posted there and the citizens. The first civillians to be rounded up will be from Texas up to Montana and the great lakes area, the rugged mid-west people who are most likely to stand and fight. Our enemy is not dumb. Despite our governments inability to do anything good the right way they can and likely would do this with some degree of precision. I doubt there would be police or military forces at your door demanding your guns and shuttling you off to cattle cars at gunpoint. It would be much easier for men in biohazard suits to show up with alarming details of a horrible virus quickly spreading throughout the area. Outside waits a school bus full of neighbors ready to quickly bring you to a school or hospital where a flu shot is waiting for you. No room for personal belongings though. No weapons allowed. “Don’t worry when the threat has passed we will bring you right back.”
Those who went into the military about the same time as me already have some idea about what life in a concentration camp is like. The training I received replicated that environment on purpose, cattle cars and all. Vicktor Frankles book “Man’s Search for Meaning” is good reading that can teach us a little about how things go in such situations (and why we never want to let it get that far). If you ever find yourself in any camp against your will a violent organized revolt is your only option for survival.
Any invading force, including those sent by our own government will be outnumbered, out-gunned and will require enough food and supplies to feed an enormous invasion force. A sustained, organized resistance force defending it’s own territory can overcome this force that is depending on a quick take-over. Perhaps the greatest threat to our freedom is the apathy of our fellow citizens. Using the Rockies and the Ozarks as our boundry lines we can stand together and quickly retake our country from any enemy, however, who else is brave enough to stand and fight and die for this country? Who is healthy enough? I can tell you from what I’ve witnessed with my own eyes, the socialist takeover of this country started years ago in our schools . I recently pulled my own children out of an “I.B. world school” – a U.N. funded wimpification camp for our kids. The generations willing or able to stand up for this country are being replaced by a generation of kids that are punished for exhibiting any sign of independence or testosterone. Gone are the days when boys played war on the playground. Comming soon – the days where football and soccer are frowned upon as dangerous activities.
Don’t forget we face a patient enemy. One who is thinking about his great-grandchildren taking this country from ours if his grandkids can’t.
We need to consider this election our last peaceful stand. Ron Paul has my vote. You should look at his website if you disagree. Check out his policies for yourself. Look at what your government has taken from you in the past 10 years! Republican and Democrat alike have whittled away your rights, what is it going to take to make Americans stand up and say enough is enough? Is it too late already? The frog has been sitting in hot water and Obama has turned the stove up to high. There has to be a tipping point and soon or our nation will be lost.
Finally, a strong mind and will is your greatest resource next to the protection of your creator. A strong purpose to guide you in your survival is essential. My hope and prayer for this nation is a peaceful return to our founding principles next winter. My heart and mind are ready to restore those principles next spring. My prayers are with you tonight and always patriots and countrymen (and women).
The saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty is that it was lost because its possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time. – Justice George Sutherland (1938)

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1June
January 18, 2012 at 10:28 pm

There is little doubt, in my mind, that should obama-soetoro call on “his friends”, at the un – -to help him enforce his (probable) declaration of martial law, we would, indeed, be invaded by “foreign forces”!
At 74, I have little to loose and am prepared to fight them, tooth, nail, gun, dagger, whatever, to give my family a chance to escape to “where ever”! The “where ever” places, around our area, are numerous and well concealed – -of course, K-9′s and “heat imaging” equipment could seek them out. I pray, daily, God will not allow this to happen in our still great nation and we will have vast opportunities to remove the presidential impostor and his entire cabal, before we ever reach that point. I also pray, after this recent experience, that America will be MORE alert AND defensive about what goes on “within” our halls of government!

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-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Sheriff Slim
February 2, 2012 at 12:29 am

80 million gun owners…300 million+ guns…I think we’re in good shape…bring on the blue berets!

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Vote -1 Vote +1David O
February 3, 2012 at 9:12 am

Sheriff Slim, i believe that number is WAY below the actual number of guns and gun owners. I must point out however that, the vast majority of them would gladly turn their guns in if necessary to receive a life saving operation for them or one of their family members (government run health care) as well as for food & water is there was none available or they hadn’t prepared and didn’t know how to produce their own food or know how to purify and filter their own water. There is a reason that Col Dave Grossman calls most people “Sheep” and that’s one of them.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Leonard M. Urban
February 12, 2012 at 4:38 pm

There are a number of ways to render unpotable water safe to drink. If bacteria, parasites or viruses are your concern, something as simple as ordinary Chlorine bleach will work–if chemical pollutants, whether accidentally introduced into water, or deliberately to force the populace into the camps is your fear, the Berkey line of filters are probably the best for purifying water by the gallons, with specialty filters available for dealing with more specialized chemical threats, and if only water from brackish coastal areas, or sea water’s available, an old-fashioned pot still will distill the salt out of the water–you can buy these online for a couple of hundred bucks. Check eBay!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Ghost Wolf
February 10, 2012 at 1:39 am

First, I am a veteran and have similar friends and contacts to you, Mr Morris.

Bugging out doesn’t mean anyone will live 24 hours longer than staying put. And that is because of satellites and drones. Mix that with the fact that most people don’t know the difference between “pleasure camping” and “fighting for survival”, so running to the mountains or woods is NO guarantee of safety or longer life.

Eventually, every single man, woman and child is going to have to make an active decision to fight or die. LITERALLY!
Our borders are wide open, Obama hates America and Americans (white especially), Michelle clearly has as much contempt for our Republics Constitution as Reid, Pelosi, Frank and Mitt Romney and about 850,000 others in the US Guv do.

The EPA, FBI, CIA, NSA, FEMA and about 3,000 other agencies are clearly against America and freedom. The same with cops who are caught between bad policy and American rights, turning them into the appearance of bad cops. And along with the escalating numbers of actual bad cops as a result of federalizing police dept’s.
There is literally NO WHERE to run as the US Guv has enacted laws making them a world dictator.

You want you individual rights back? Your freedom? Your Republic?
Then YOU, (everyone reading this!), is going to have to fight… whether that is while you’re running thought the woods or on your front porch,

Ever since the 2012 NDAA was passed, the guv has been staffing “so-called FEMA camps”.
Holloman AFB is 26 miles from where I am sitting. They have one, according to military personnel and friends who work there. Fort Bliss has one, as does Ft. Leonard Wood and about 600 other military bases.
Holloman AFB is a Deutsch Luftwaffe (German Air Force) base and home to UN troops, training and equipment base. (perhaps if your friends, Mr. Moriis, were a little more honest about what they knew…) Those CILF (Civilian Inmate Labor Force) Camps are reality, sir.

The USA has more foreign troops than many of you reading this are aware of. Obviously.

I’m not moving one damn inch. I’m not surrendering my home, guns, ammo, food, extra water… ALL OF WHICH… has been passed into law as being ILLEGAL TO POSSESS.

Will I die? Maybe. But even if I do, I will die standing as a white, hetero and conservative man and loyal to our Republic that my entire family has fought for generations to defend.

I have relatives in the Arlington National Cemetery and I will not disgrace them by “bugging out” and leaving the fight for those unequipped mentally or physically to do so.
I will fight!

Will you?
Or will you run?!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1John Titus
February 11, 2012 at 3:45 pm

I have served about 20 years working in government with 15 years of this time in law enforcement or related positions. I just want to say that I know many in militaru, law enforcement and government positions who are just as concerned as you are about the future of the Republic. We have had many conversations about our stand on protecting the citizens and the Constitution if there is an attempt to take over the US as it appears there may well be. We stand behinf the citizens and the Constitution and will defend these to the end.

The good news is that there are resistance groups already oraganized and fighting this takeover as you read these words. However, in most cases you would not even recognize these for what they are. In some recent cases, you may even have been lead to believe these are terorist acts by the largely controlled mainstream media. You may have seen recent reports about cyber threats and hacking of US government computer systems by a groupd called “Anonymous”. All I can say at this point is that they are allies in this fight and don’t believe everything you are fed by the media. Do your own research and you will see thr truth.

Another recent set of incidents that happened in August 2011 are worth noting here. You all no doubt remember the earthquake in Virginia on August 23rd. This was not an earthquake. This was a 2 kiloton underground nuclear detonation that destroyed an underground CIA facility. This facility was part of a massive underground network of facilites that speads from the east coast across the nation’s midsection and extending to Edwards AFB in California. Another CIA underground facility in Colorado was destroyed as well. Please see the link below for details.

http://pesn.com/2011/09/18/9501916_Evidence_Denver_and_DC_Quakes_Caused_by_Nukes/

The facilites were destroyed because they were to be used as underground hiding places for those who are attempting to start WWIII by using Iran as the flashpoint. Their goal is to depopulate the Earth and bring about the final phase of their New World Order. Believe me ladies and gentlement this is very real. There are definitely forces within the US military who are fighting against this everyday. Many high level officers in the military have expressed their refusal to commit the US to another illegal war of agression. This conflict which is now ongoing just below the surface is likely to erupt into a full fledged civil war with the factions withing the military that support the citizens and the Constitution fighting against tose that support the New World Order.

Those of you that support saving the Republic can begin doing so by first identifying the enemy locally through political means. Many of them are in your city and county government and state legislatures. They can be usually recognized by the way they vote on certain issues that affect rights and freedoms . You will also find that many who are your enemy are 33rd degree Freemasons.

Be watchfull and be safe! You are not alone. You will know when and how to act in defence of the Republic when the time comes.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Chris
March 17, 2012 at 5:03 pm

They are training United Nation troops in Southern Indiana and have been for a while.

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-1 Vote -1 Vote +1Debbie
May 8, 2012 at 5:13 pm

Regarding foreign troops on our soil. Sometime this year, there will be Russian troops training in Colorado. Now that is something to take heed about. It could begin any time now and I don’t think we as a country, should allow it, but it looks like we don’t have much say in it, So, listen, learn and be ready!

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