The difference between a real survival plan and being prepared for ‘anything’

by David Morris on August 9, 2011

Have you seen the rioting and looting in London in the last few days?

Most of our media in America isn’t covering it much so you may not have heard about it, but the truth is it is yet another reminder that society can get turned upside down in the blink of an eye.  Here’s a link to a BBC article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

What’s perhaps most striking about these riots is that they started as a result of a peaceful protest in Tottenham on Saturday and it’s now been three days of mayhem and destruction.  The reason I’m drawing your attention to this is because England is a lot like the US in the sense that in a Western society people don’t expect this kind of violence to erupt and engulf a city in flames.  We’re supposed to be civilized, right?

Well, the reality is that our civil society is hanging on by a thread.

In Wisconsin a few months back protests over Governor Walker’s reform measures resulted in raucous protests and many Americans were shocked to see a normally quiet city become front page news as throngs of people filled the streets and many worried violent riots would erupt.

I know it’s tempting to get so wrapped up in day to day life that it’s easy to miss the big picture.  This is a normal, human desire to find reassurance in the familiar and ignore all the evidence that even here in the USA the fabric of society can be torn wide open without warning.  As with Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath in cities like Houston and Atlanta, natural disasters can trigger massive suffering and social unrest and the reality is that if you are not prepared when these things happen you may very well not survive or get a second chance.

Which brings me to a simple question I get all the time from people who basically agree that it’s important to get prepared and the answer is critical to understand…

Is it better to be prepared to survive in your house, without leaving, being able to resupply, and without utilities, for 40 days and 40 nights?

OR…

Is it better to be fully prepared for any disaster that has ever been conceived or that has a possibility of happening?

In theory of course it is better to be prepared for anything but the reality is that is nearly impossible to PLAN for ‘anything’ and without a plan you won’t really get prepared.  Add that to the fact that while disaster can strike any time and society can break down into disorder without warning, the disruption that you must plan to survive without outside aid is a few weeks or a month at most.

With the Fastest Way To Prepare plan, you can get your brain wrapped around a plan and actually achieve it.

With the ‘anything/anywhere’ plan, you NEVER have enough, you never finish, and you will end up with a very unbalanced plan.

Right now I can’t get into the details of the Fastest Way To Prepare plan because that’s a bigger topic than I can cover here today – but I will soon.

Instead, for now I want to make sure that you are fully awake because I just had a shocking experience recently.

See, disasters are “go” time for first responders.

During or after a disaster, it’s time for police, military, firemen, medical professionals, and other professionals like utility workers to take care of business.

The strange irony though is that first responder families are especially at risk.

Why?  Because while first responders are taking care of everyone else, their families are left to take care of themselves.

Worse, many of these same families have slacked off on preparedness training and stocking up BECAUSE there’s an expectation that the “hero” in their family will take care of them.  When their first responder is off saving the day, the families left behind can be lost if they don’t have a pre-defined network or solid plan in place.

Here’s the shocker that inspired me to write this post today.

I was at an event recently with over 200 disaster first responders from all skill backgrounds.

When asked how many had a 30 day supply of food for their families, can you guess how many hands went up?

TWO.

Two first responder families out of 200 were prepared to self-support for 30 days.

It was another instance of the cobblers’ kids having no shoes.

The other 198 were evidently planning on their families becoming victims and refugees dependent on handouts that may or may not arrive…just like everyone else.

I want better for my loved ones.

I want better for my fellow first responders who will be key in the recovery process after disasters.

And I want better for you.

Like I said in the beginning of this post, it is human and understandable to get wrapped up in day to day life and put off getting prepared or feeling overwhelmed that you don’t know how to prepare for absolutely anything.  But while I understand, I’m here today to tell you that will be of small comfort if a disaster strikes and you’re not ready.  Believe me, if only 2 out of 200 first responders aren’t prepared, the odds are that you aren’t prepared either.

As for feeling overwhelmed and trying to plan for any conceivable disaster, remember, the most critical time that you must be prepared to survive is 30 days.   That’s why the foundation of my latest survival plan is 40 days – that gives you a 10 day buffer above and beyond to give you peace of mind.

In the next few days I’m going to talk more about what you must have in your 40 day plan so stay tuned.  For today, just commit to getting a preparedness plan in place and stay awake and alert because now is NOT the time to be complacent.

God bless and stay safe,

David Morris.

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+6 Vote -1 Vote +1kay
August 9, 2011 at 10:51 am

Excellent post! I have been attempting to tell others how important it is to get stocked up on food and medical supplies, plant a garden and become more self sufficient. I realize also that many are living pay check to pay check (just like I am) and it isn’t possible to go on a major buying binge and spend hundreds of dollars all at once. Consequently I’ve been trying to encourage people to buy a little extra every payday to build up their pantry supplies.

I am looking forward to additional articles about your 40 day plan.

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+12 Vote -1 Vote +1JR
August 9, 2011 at 11:03 am

I have enough food stored for now, but will be adding more. If I were in that room, I would not have raised my hand either….why not just put a target on my back instead? Keeping your stash secret is part of preparing as well. When the SHTF, you don’t want people coming to your place….because when that word gets out….that you have supplies….well you can kiss your shelter and safety goodbye.

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Vote -1 Vote +1TPPatriot
March 4, 2012 at 6:47 pm

Excellent point about keeping HUSH!!
“Loose lips sink ships”
THANKS! CY6
-TP

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Dianne
August 9, 2011 at 11:09 am

I agree with Kay! Great post – I share the same values too. . . while right now we are living pay check to pay check, I am grateful I have had my food storage. I still try to buy a little bit here and there, (and I do manage to budget some of my limited income to build my food storage every month). I too try to ecourgage people to build their pantry supplies, unfortunately some people just don’t listen and think it won’t get bad enough not to have access to food! When I see my freezer empty, I am grateful I have been building storage for several years and I know my family will have food.

I can’t wait for your 40 day plan. I enjoy all your informative articles and I would rather read what you have to say than watch the news!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Sue
August 9, 2011 at 11:16 am

I have been canning everything I can get my hands on and have things like powdered milk, powdered eggs, water etc. I have staples stocked, still I don’t feel prepared, I just know there is something I need to have and don’t.
I too have tried to tell people to stock up and they just really don’t believe me. They think I am a radical.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Sarah
August 9, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Sue,
Do you have a way to cook if there is no power? We live in the country but we still have sterno and other means for cooking. We also just purchased an old enamel cook stove that heats by wood that will be put into its own building. Blessings and keep preparing:)

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1cheryl
August 9, 2011 at 6:25 pm

“Food” for thought…if you are in an emergency situation…only your family has supplies, do you REALLY want to send up smoke signals to the hoards that will be looking for food and supplies? That question was posed to me by a retired green beret…I had mentioned about a green house and other small ways to survive.. and that got me thinking about TRUE survival, food easily eaten without cooking, or special growing…

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 8:57 am

One can buy a “stove” for about $7 plus the cost of velcro :-) ) It’s a solar oven made from an aluminum windshield shade. No “smoke signals” and it will reach temps of 350 degres on a sunny day (which we have many of, here in TX)

You can find instructions for making it here:
http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Windshield_Shade_Solar_Cooker

There are a number of things you can make, using solar energy, including a solar dehydrator: http://www.i4at.org/surv/soldehyd.htm

These items would be easy to disassemble and re-assemble. There are many other items including instructions for “solar window heaters” as well, online. Just look online for solar items that you can build. MOST do NOT require solar panels. If you want to build a solar panel for recharging small items, buy “blemished” ones on ebay, etc. They are much cheaper & work but aren’t sold retail because they are blemished.

Start now, accumulating recipes for “made from scratch” items such as bread, etc. I have an entire collection of camping recipes that can be cooked in one Cast iron Dutch Oven just like the Boy Scouts do. You can not always assume you will have sunshine for a solar oven or even a kitchen to cook in.

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Vote -1 Vote +1J. Blair
August 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm

Gas grill or coleman camp stove.

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Vote -1 Vote +1TPPatriot
March 4, 2012 at 6:57 pm

campfire – wood is plentiful and many types are nearly smokeless. People have been doing this for a loooong time maybe like a million years!

THANKS! CY6
-TP

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1cheryl
August 9, 2011 at 6:29 pm

a means of CLEAN water supply…and keep in mind, if you have to evacuate, water IS HEAVY, people need lots to survive…so think efficient AND easily portable, or easily purified.

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Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 9:04 am

Clorax bleach will purify water. 8 drops will purify 1 gallon of tainted water. Keep a couple of large packages of coffee filters with your supplies.
http://www.clorox.com/products/clorox-regular-bleach/how-to/

When boiling off water for 1 minute is not possible in an emergency situation, disinfect water by:
1. Remove suspended particles by filtering or letting particles settle to the bottom. Pour clear water into a clean container.
2. Add 8 drops of Clorox® Regular-Bleach to one gallon of water (2 drops to 1 quart). For cloudy water, use 16 drops per gallon of water (4 drops to 1 quart).
3. Let treated water to stand for 30 minutes. Water should have a slight bleach odor. If not, repeat and wait another 15 minutes. The treated water can then be made palatable by pouring it between clean containers several times.

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Vote -1 Vote +1EPSRedhawk44
August 10, 2011 at 6:30 pm

One should be very careful in using chlorine bleach. It has some bad affects on the human body. It scars the walls of arteries for one. I have some in case it’s needed but it will be as the very last resort. Remember, chlorine was used as a weapon in World War I by the Germans. Just remember if you can smell it, it WILL do damage to your body whether you can feel it or not. You don’t have to take my word for it. You can BING it for yourself. I’d stay away from Google these days.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 7:25 pm

Some info that might interest you in regards to chlorine bleach, since it mentions how long it takes for the chlorine to evaporate into the air, after you purify the water:

http://weblife.org/water.html
Exerpt:

To get rid of the chlorine in water, put it in an open wide-mouth container and allow it to sit overnight. The chlorine will evaporate into the air. Also, you can add a tiny pinch of vitamin C powder or a piece of vitamin C tablet to chlorinated water just before use. The vitamin C will bond with the chlorine and create a harmless salt, causing the smell and taste of the chlorine to vanish. In a rush, blending chlorinated water in a blender for 15 minutes will also remove the chlorine.

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Vote -1 Vote +1TPPatriot
March 4, 2012 at 6:59 pm

Since water is EVERYWHERE, my only concern is 5+ ways to filter and purify quickly and easily. NOT worried about it.

THANKS! CY6
-TP

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Lindalee
August 10, 2011 at 12:25 pm

Hi Sue,
I too have been canning and dehydrating, I have chickens ,ducks and goats. I’m thinking about adding a couple of rabbits as well. My garden isn’t huge but it has been fairly productive. i took into account that we have 2 dogs that will need feed and we have a spring within 100 yds of our house. I have a room especially for all my stockpile but am still acquiring everything I can. I still ahve that nagging feeling though that I have missed something. The only thing that truly troubles me is my first grandchild is due in Nov. and I am not prepared enough for him. Most of the people around think I am a nut, even my husband. I try to convince him that it is alot like an insurance policy, if things turn around and the economy recovers, we can eat our supplies if it doesn’t, we can eat our supplies. It seems to me that it can’t be a mistake to prepare. keep your chin up and God bless you and yours. Lindalee

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Salty Dawg
August 9, 2011 at 11:33 am

Now this is what I’m talking about!!!!! amen brother!!!! Keep articles like this coming this absolutely helps the prepping community out!!!! I will suggest all the readers of The Pirates Republic to read this series if you keep to the code. Good job you!

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Beamlighter
August 9, 2011 at 11:35 am

JUST DO IT. Money is usually tight for all of us. To get started, we took a small amount of money EACH WEEK and shopped the specials published by the Grocers in our area. We only bought the things we eat currently, (but now necessarily our preferred brands). Within three months we had purchased almost a month of extra food. With that success we stated buying toiletries and personal hygiene items. We saw a significant jump both inventories in the next three month. The reason, we were more focused in our collecting “good deal” and we had more money to work with because we had purchased most of our food “on sale”. At the nine month mark we wanted to change some of our food preferences to take advantage of food storage efficiencies or food preparation advantages. We had more that three months of food and we were eating cheaper and better. Question: Would you rather be 0% prepared or 2% prepared? Everyone that is prepared today was once unprepared and then they made the commitment and went to 2% and eventually beyond that to their particular comfort level at a pace the met their financial and urgency quotient. 2% is better than 0%.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1savingandsurviving
August 10, 2011 at 11:50 pm

I have been preparing for many years and feel I am well on my way but there are always more things I need. I have learned to coupon so that I can build my stockpile and then use the money I save for other items I need that can’t be found at the grocery store.I have started a website that concentrates on just that, using coupons to build a stockpile and preparedness. It’s pretty new and I’m just getting it started but I am hoping to combine many of Dave’s concepts with couponing . Kind of weird but I think there is a need for this. So many sites tell use what we need but not the least expensive way to get it. Maybe I can workout something with Dave and link to his survive in place program, it’s great and I recommend it to many.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 11, 2011 at 9:32 am

Couponing is great if it’s a fit for your family. I’ve got to make some general statements and then I’ll address your particular situation. Other than paper products, we’ve personally found that we don’t use too many items that have coupons. As an example, we buy a LOT of local items, don’t drink soda, don’t buy sweets (other than dark DARK chocolate that we savor in small quantities :) , avoid highly refined and processed foods, as well as skincare products that are full of petroleum distalates or other unnecessary chemicals. This limits the number of coupons we can use significantly.

The few times that I’ve watched the extreme couponing programs, I’m absolutely amazed by the amount of “junk” that they’re buying. In fact, if they’ve got 3-5 carts of groceries, there MIGHT be 3-5 items that they’ve got that I’d want to put into my body. It’s not a judgement, it’s just a personal choice.

But I do think that, in many cases, people are simply kicking the can down the road…saving money by buying cheap/free junk food now but pay for it with poor sleep, weight gain, increased sickness, and doctor visits and medications down the road.

As to your idea and concept of using couponing for preparedness, I think it’s GREAT! Two general things that I’d keep in mind are 1. What I mentioned before about how expensive “cheap” junk food and beauty products can be. and 2. The TRUE cost of couponing. There is a cost to time. When you spend time couponing, it’s time you can’t spend earning money (with exceptions), can’t spend with family (unless you’re using it as part of homeschooling or teaching kids about economics), and can’t spend exercising or relaxing. If you keep track of your time spent couponing and decide that it REALLY is the highest and best use of your time, then GO FOR IT! :)

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
August 9, 2011 at 11:41 am

Our group has started planning the logistics of all families bugging out at our place. When we added it all up, it turned into almost 30 people, plus 6 dogs, and 6 cats. Our plans include increasing the amount of food we have stored here, but we are hesitant because we don’t want all our eggs in one basket. There is a risk of a tornado blasting our preps all over the county. Also we only have so much space available right now for controlled temp storage (50-75 degrees.)

We are working on getting up to 3 months food stored. Currently we (wife and I) have 2-3 weeks of stored food & water. We just went to an LDS storage center to learn how to dry pack #10 cans, and added to our preps at the same time. They sell bulk dry goods at very reasonable prices, plus the cans, lids and oxy absorbers. They also let people borrow their canners.

Long term (if there is a long term) preparations include a large water tank/cistern system, a grey water system, wood fired boiler, another wood stove, more secure & cold storage for food, and making the whole house & property more secure.

As for security, we’ve got a reserve sheriff, and an ex-Ranger, who are helping develop those plans. Guns and ammo we’ve got plenty of, we all met through a firearms forum, so we are all gun nuts to some extent.

When we sat down to start planning all this, the ex-National Guard chopper pilot in our group really focused our efforts. I started more worried about what could happen , he directed our energy towards what we need if we were all going to bug out to our homestead. Crunching the numbers, 30 people x 3 months x 3 meals per day = 8190 meals needed. Talk about an Oh Sh!t moment for most of us. But we are taking it a step at a time. Each family is responsible for their own food, and contributing $20 a month for group preps. We thought that was a reasonable goal in these economic times.

Overall, I’m pleased with our current planning, and as we build inventory I’ll have more peace of mind about our preps.

Here’s hoping for the best,
Keith

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1TS in Colorado
August 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm

Keith……That is awesome what you have done!!!! It is encouraging to me to know others are trying and Acting on it. Wish I was near to join your group. We are in Colorado….so, if your close, let me know!!! We have some we know that want to do something, but no one has enough money to get a place. So, we are getting nervous thinking we just need to do our own thing. But I know that we need others to help. We have prepared a lot, but am also interested in the 40 day plan to organize more. I think we all forget how much water we will need to make all the food we have put away!. Time is short, and true, we need to be prepared as much as possible. If anyone here knows of contacts in the N. CO area, would LOVE to meet you!! God’s Speed

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
August 10, 2011 at 8:54 am

Space is definitely an issue. We caught a break in ’07 and were able to sell our old house for a profit before the bottom fell out of the market. We are lucky that we’ve got a 3000 sf, 5 bedroom home. That will give each family with children a room to call their own. At least, that’s how I think we’ll divide it. We also have a full unfinished attic that could be converted into living space if need be.

Any future improvements will have long term self-reliance as a primary goal.

For 3 seasons, we can have some people in tents in the back yard. I’ve also been thinking about getting a used RV, or travel trailer to supplement the living space. Could also serve as a mobile bug out command post, as long as gas is available. We also have a shed, and garage that could serve as quarters with some work.

I’ve been a survivalist/prepper since the early-80′s when we were supposed to die via nuclear holocaust. While it takes time, money and energy to build up the knowledge and supplies, having the will to live is the most important part.

If you’ve got Davids material then you’re way ahead of the game, you’ll avoid costly mistakes by following his plan. And having a plan is the 2nd most important part of long term survival.

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Vote -1 Vote +1dans-in-co
August 10, 2011 at 4:54 pm

I live in Loveland, CO. I attend the Loveland 9-12 Project meetings. We have a Preparedness Committee that holds meetings every other Tuesday @ 5:30pm. I attend those when work allows. Yesterdays topic was on a 3-month food supply. Look us up online. See you there!
Dan

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Sailorman Andy
August 9, 2011 at 11:53 am

Although we have been preparing since 2000, I’m looking forward to information you are providing. I can’t help but to agree that I would keep quiet about my preparedness as those first responders may have done. That said, simply having a garden that is visable from the street is an invitation for those who would relieve you of your hard earned produce. That is the reason for our greenhouse and solar system having been planned and constructed to be hidden. The first victims will be those that are thought to be easy targets and worth the risk for the benefit they may reap. My plans for our survival are more aimed at the long term so we are well beyond the limited survival mode. However, we all need to start somewhere with a definite well thought out plan and impliment it even if only a few dollars at a time. Since we have never been rich, and lived from paycheck to paycheck, we know that with planning and education it can be done. It needs to be done today, not put off until tomorrow because there is so much happening in such a short time. I woud recommend that systems you put in place be used and refined as you go along rather than waiting for a disaster to hope that everything works. Experience has shown us that things go wrong many times as you test and refine even in the absense of an emergency. That gives us the confidence that what we have in place will provide our needs as we presently use our systems each day. Thanks again David. We appreciate all that you are doing, and our insight may help others along the way as yours do.
for God, family, and country, Andy

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1AutumnGal
August 9, 2011 at 12:01 pm

David, you absolutely did shock me with the info of only 2 out of 200… yet as I read JR’s comment, I had to smile as I thought, “I would not have raised my hand either and for the same reason.” So, maybe a Congratulations David is in order here. You’ve taught us well. How much food do I have on hand? Oh, probably a 2 or 3 day supply”…. Lol
While practice may not make perfect, it does make one better… Thanks!
Now if you would just greatly lower the price of your (invaluable) book so I buy a few to share :)

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Vote -1 Vote +1Tony
August 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm

I love when you get to business. It’s nice to have some one like you on “our side”… I was hoping you could tell me, refresh my memory, about something you wrote a while back… not sure when. It was 3 things to have in a disaster… I think it was para cord, a universal handcuf key, and a little “halligan” type tool… you named them, and I can’t find where I put that article… I was hoping you could remind all of us what these 3 things were. Keep up the good fight!

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Vote -1 Vote +1d. alexander
August 9, 2011 at 12:22 pm

I have been stocking food and probably have enuf for 4-6 months. Just myself here,- older ude.. i live in a small city. I have been trying to ascertain the need for a gun and whether it should be a 12ga. shot or carry on 9mm. also thought of a 22. I am still at mercy of city water tho i have means to purify that. Also what is the advantage of staying in the us? When it comes down there will be no geting out, so now or never. thinking quatamala area. Also a main concern with me is i am diabetic w/ hi blood pressure. need my daily meds.
Any ideas on meds would be great and i know you can get them in S.A. Really going back and forth on the gun tho. I am living on ss and have little left each month. Do have a car i could sell to be in the wind. You comments would be great, ann and all. Only thing holding me here is my son and grandson who won’t listen to me at all. Would love living on a community somewhere who is aware and spiritual.
in peace – bring the boys home now! Send the politicions to fight. George Carlin said it greatly when he said it was a giant dick waving contest.
thanks you Peace and Love
d

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Damon1
August 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm

d. as for the high blood pressure, I started taking garlic 1000 capsuls(4 a day) and I no longer have HBP. As for the diabeties my mom takes cinnamon extract to keep her blood
sugar in check! And as for which firearm to get, a shotgun is better for “inhome” defense but you can’t take everywhere you go, and as for a handgun, go to a gunstore that has a firing range (indoor or out) and most will let you rent different guns to try before you buy to find out which one’s right for you! Also check on their “training memberships” a gun in an “untrained” hand can be worse than not having one! And if you are trained than theres nothing wrong with honing your skills. Hope this was helpful!

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Vote -1 Vote +1tony
August 9, 2011 at 5:12 pm

hey,go to angioprim dot com to get an all natural remedy that’ll help out big time w/ diabetes and hi blood pressure.i just got my order in 2days ago and so far so good.lol good luck w/all your health needs and to all your preparing for the inevitable! :D
tony from san antonio,tx
tonyspurlin.usana.com

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1TS in Colorado
August 9, 2011 at 5:26 pm

Hey…..If you became a diabetic as an adult, you can cure it with diet and exercise. You can do a google search and start learning. If you have had it all your life, then see if you can get extra meds from your doctor to have on hand. Totally understand your wanting to be with others of like mind, us too. ALso, the family issues, us too. We are known as the Gypsies because we have moved around a lot. And of course they think we are crazy too. That is why I SO MUCH enjoy reading everyone’s comment on here. It encourages me that We are not alone in spirit! Good luck.

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Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 8:35 am

Not all Type II Diabetics can be cured of diabetes. It depends on whether they still have enough functioning beta cells and how severe any insulin resistance they have, is.

That said, a recent British study showed a high decrease in glucose in the blood stream in patients being given 3000 mg of Cinnamon per day. I buy 1000 mg capsules that also have Chronmium in them as it also will help reduce glucose because I am unable to take Metformin but do take Glipizide. There are also US studies that support that cinnamon does decrease glucose.

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1craig francis
August 9, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Costco has a special. For members they offer a 2 year supply of food for a family of 4. $3000 (discounted by $500 if the order is placed by August 14) They will deliver to your door. If 12 families with 4 members ponies up $250 each and each family picks up 1 month supply, the other 10 days should come from the normal stocks of food in the cupboard. This product stores will for 10-25 years. This is not the only solution or the best solution but it is a good start and could complement other measures. It also allows a smaller set of families to have food to share.

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Vote -1 Vote +1AZPrepareZ
August 14, 2011 at 10:23 pm

That is a great idea but I cannot seem to find that product on the website. Do you have the item number?

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Debt
August 9, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Good points, David. I’m retired LEO and saw over the years how many people were unprepared for even the smallest emergency. I’d cringe whenever I helped a stranded driver who didn’t even have the simplest skills such as knowing how to jump start a car, check the oil or use a hand held fire extinguisher.
I found that most drivers were woefully unprepared for winter driving. They didn’t carry the necessary survival equipment such as extra blankets, clothing, high energy food supplies, etc, in case their vehicle broke down. In the middle of a storm, help could be hours if not a day or two away.
I’ve come to the conclusion that when TSHTF, if you’re not part of the solution (preparedness, simple survival skills, etc), then you’ll become part of the problem.
I’m trying to prepare the best I can, but like many others have stated, I feel like I must be
missing something.
I look forward to your 40 day 40 night plan.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Marilyn Hoberg
August 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Thanks for the great articles. I, too, have been preparing for this since 2000. In all, I think I have about a one year supply of freeze dried food, plenty of toiletries and plenty of ammo. We are currently searching for property in the mountains to settle on, and hope we find it soon. All of us, my sons and I, live in campers and are ready to go at a moments notice.

Something you could pass on to your readers is the use of hydroponic growing. Individual towers are available for sale to grow above-ground vegetables. They come complete with the circulator and all the “food” (not chemicals) that the plants need. With these towers it takes one month to grow a plant from a seedling to mature plant. That would be a life saver in some areas of the country.

I am looking forward to your 40 day plan,and God bless you, we need people like to to help us.

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Vote -1 Vote +1TS in Colorado
August 9, 2011 at 5:29 pm

Awesome Marilyn!!! I had to smile about you living in a camper. We bought one last Fall because I felt impressed to have a “bug out cabin” since we don’t have land yet either!!! Good for you. We too are looking int he mountains. You in the CO area?? We really need some way to meet up with people in the areas we live in. Any ideas on that???????

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jenna
August 10, 2011 at 9:32 am

There is a forum on the main site that has a ‘meet people in your area’ bit. Alas, nobody speaking up in Montana!

Thank you David and all contributors for keeping me on my toes! I am concerned about the government coming in and clearing out my stores to redistribute as they have done in the past. Can only hide so much. Any suggestions?
Thanks, J

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1krys
August 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm

David, wonderful article as always. Looking forward to the 40 day project. Do you ever get a full night of sleep. LOL

Marilyn – Your absolutely right, especially if you have little or no area to plant. I have the whole shower/bathtub set up for growing, here in the camper so we can grow things & no one knows about it. Easy set up & the growing lights can be bought any where. No worries about a mess since there is a drain & easy clean. pole shower caddys also help w/the viners w/heavy loads so if they fall they don’t go far or helps support them {melons}. It’s easy standing there & figuring out the space for tall & small.
I also have drapery tension rods going east & west to help hold up any of the leaners plus a string between two for other climbers.
i also been experimenting with a vaporiser for temp control for those that need more moisture. made an adapter for it so it only goes where i want it
What I haven’t seen is anyone converting plugs ac/dc, thats also easy to change. Most everything I have I bought the plugs for so I can do a change if I have too. Go to a Truck Stop & check out their supply of ac/dc things or call them & ask what they have & the prices, I have alot of those things I kept when we were coast to coast truck drivers.
Talk to the older people who lived during the 20′s & 30′s depression, they will tell you usefull information on how they survived.
My Dad taught me alot growing up since he lived it. He also taught me mechanics & electrical so I can get by on that. Being on a farm you learn to improvise.
I also have several solar & Tesla units for electric. I made up a bunch of fire starters in med bottles with a good supply of matches I sealed in square icecream containers each box wrapped in saran wrap & foil with a roll of ducktape to reseal the containers.
Another thing in different sizes are the telescopting pocket magnets & grabbers I have for each of us in the packs, never know if you’ll need them to get something out of a grated area or tight spot in a engine
My input for the day. God Bless Us All be safe preppers.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1captain mike
August 9, 2011 at 1:11 pm

Why so surprised David? Maybe they all took your course like me, and the other 198 are just better at Op Sec .

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Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Leitkowski
August 9, 2011 at 1:23 pm

Hi David: I just wanted to say thanks for the amount of how-to info you share for free. I would love to buy your book, but truly can’t, so I appreciate what I learn from your emails. I know a lot of people say they don’t have the money to prepare when they really do – they just need to lay off the Starbuck’s runs, the eating out, the $95 monthly cable bill, etc. Then there are those out there like my family who have never lived out of their means and are not doing any of the above, but who are still: a) living check to check because of the economy crashing our business, b) losing our house to foreclosure, c) living without health insurance, and d) living with the frustration and sadness of having a child with special needs they can’t afford therapy for, anyway, despite all they’ve tried to do right. We truly can’t affford to go out and spend $1000s on supplies. Heck we can’t even spend $10s, LOL! I have a few cans of beans, some rice, and a lot of prayers. I pray our situation will change when we are forced out of our home and into an uncertain future, but if we have any ability at all to prepare, much of what we will do will be things brought to mind from reading your posts. Thanks so much! May God hear the prayers of all the believers around the world and extend his hand of mercy, protection, and compassion to them when the worst happens.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Bill
August 9, 2011 at 4:17 pm

Buy a large bag of pinto beans to go with your rice (Costco or the like is ideal). Preparation is a little tedious (soak overnight; rinse; add a little bacon, fatback, a can of ham or other pork if you have it; simmer 5+ hours; add water and a little rice; simmer another half hour stiring frequently). Rice and beans (even without any meat) makes a complete protein.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Agnes
August 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm

i have a large family, 7 kids and a spouse and every week we read all your news letters, cant wait till the next. Glad to see there are other people who are as prepared as we are.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1janice
August 9, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Carrie I am A 69 year old grandmother who lives on SS snd nothing else.Maybe some of what I’ve learned through the years as a low income disabled person will help.Do you have A car?If you do hang on to it tooth and nail this will be your lifeline.With it you have A place to sleep and are able to move around from place to place.As far as gas money churches will usually give you A gas voucher.Try to stay in A campground.There are many different kinds you can check out.As soon as you have A few dollars check out renting A trailer as they are cheaper than A house and more private than an apt..In the meantime buy some tomatoes to go with your beans and rice.It makes A palatable meal.Buy some oatmeal,brown sugar and powered milk.Another meal taken care of and very filling.If you look you will find different places to hide A few cans etc.for the times ahead.God will provide but He wants us to do our part too.Sometimes He steps in at the last minute but He always steps in.May the only wise God be with you.Janice

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Vote -1 Vote +1Carrie Leitkowski
August 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm

Hi Janice: What a lovely lady you are. Thanks for your ideas. I am actually looking to sell our car after we move only so we can replace it one-to-one for the money with an older one converted to run on waste veggie oil. I figure getting free “gas” would help in our overall budget! And we are schooling our 7 year old at home to save the commute and supply money (free virtual public school education), so I will be looking for a night job. Since it will unfortunately be many years before any bank will ever again offer us a mortgage (unless someone will look at the fact that we did not spend our way into reckless debt and frivolously) decide to just not pay our mortgage), we ARE actually looking at the possibility of a manufactured home. We live in South Florida, so there are lots to choose from, :-) . The one and only wise God is the only we are following around here – may He bless you! Carrie

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Vote -1 Vote +1Kathleen
August 9, 2011 at 2:46 pm

It’s even worse than that. I know people who don’t even keep food in their home–they only eat out. They try to tell me that groceries are too expensive!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David R.(Canada)
August 9, 2011 at 7:11 pm

I’ve also learned to live on very little. The problem around here (Canadian Prairie) is the weather. Staying warm when it’s -40 deg. C is not easy.
I manage to keep my house and my old van and live comfortably on $661 / month in a small village. It’s not easy, but many of the old ideas from my parents, who went through food-rationing in England during and just after WWII, are now coming in handy. I experienced much of it myself and actually remember first-hand much of it.
I saw all this coming many years ago, and like you, I’ve learned to live on very little.
God Bless.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 9:43 am

David, if you have sunshine on those -40 degree days you might benefit from a solar window heater than you can make, yourself. There are numerously plans, online and it could benefit your electric bill, as well.

This website has many links for DIY Solar projects that help you…even one for a solar heated Ice Fishing structure!
http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/SpaceHeating/Space_Heating.htm

Hopefully, there is a project that would benefit you (or others)

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Oathkeeper John
August 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Great Start ! Good idea to have a little Extra For those You do want to Share with too! And to help your immediate Neighbors,Elderly! Thanks For Spreading the Word! Prepare! Prepare! Prepare!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Peggy Selden
August 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm

THANKS FOR AN EXCELLENT HEADS-UP ALERT!

Yes money is tight for alot of us right now…but taking advantage of dollar store sales and specials where you least expect them. If your are not growing a garden take advantage of the farmer markets>this year……next year plan to use the non-hybrid seed bank for your family. I have announced locally that I will help with the harvest if they need a picker in return for the leftovers in the field or the not customer ready item.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Gale Vargo
August 9, 2011 at 4:02 pm

For those not knowing how to begin to prepare – many years ago when I started I took a single sheet of notebook paper for each letter of the alphabet, put the letter at the top of each page then listed everything I could think of starting with that letter (ie: A – applesauce,
apples (dried) etc.) all the way to the page for “Z”. And not just food, I included clothline, clothespins, Laundry soap, dish soap and so on. Then for one month I tracked my usage of each item I used and marked the amount on the appropriate page, next to the item. I also had a medical page, a clothing required page for my husband and myself. It sounds tedious (and it is in the beginning.) But it helps you to buy what you really need and stock the proper quantities. I keep the pages in a RED notebook and marked on the back with a star.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Robert J Kerr CPP
August 9, 2011 at 4:09 pm

a comment to the person(d.Alexander), thinking about moving to South America and also about what gun to buy: shotgun., 22 rimfire or 9,mm.
I suggest you wait to buy the gun until you decide what country you are moving to,then check with that country,s attache or Citizenship people to see what kind ( if any) of firearm you can import to there
Robert J. Kerr C.P.P. (certified protection professional).

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Vote -1 Vote +1Celticwaryor
August 9, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Chile will let you bring your guns with you.

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Vote -1 Vote +1chucknoland
August 9, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Hey Dave: Like many we have prepped and planned and I have skills I should sell. but if you do not do things every day over and over you are not truly ready. but I plan to hold our fort down, and do the best we can. so anyway thanks for the extra tips and keep em coming.
Thanks to all

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Vote -1 Vote +1joseph lee morehouse
August 9, 2011 at 4:50 pm

I have been preparing for the last 2 years,I have about a year worth of supplies ,I also have a developing seed bank of my own.The problem I have is that I have a large family that seem to think ,nothing wrong – any suggestion on how to get through to them?

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1TS in Colorado
August 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm

From what I have heard from others regarding education our families, you tell them once, twice, maybe three times, then let them be. It is hard I know. I keep sending emails to mine and it ends up biting me in the butt. So, like the saying I have on my desk “Until they are AWAKE. they are a THREAT to you. It is very hard to not share info, but time is short and we better be finding those of like mind and continue to prepare for your family!

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Vote -1 Vote +1joseph lee morehouse
August 10, 2011 at 10:23 am

Thank you, for your thoughts.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Lindalee
August 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm

I’ve been trying to figure out how to find like-minded people without telling everyone that I’ve been storing food and trying to prepare for what seems inevitable. Any suggestions on how to locate these (and I know there have to be others close by) would be more than welcome. Thanks and God bless

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Vote -1 Vote +1krys
August 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm

TS in Colorado, very true, but be very, very careful with whom you ask. Some People have never met a line they wouldn’t cross!. I thought we had a good group, ended up when they got what they wanted they left. leaving us with almost nothing. So having to start over with a lot of it we cannot replace since the school check got butchered with taxes, insurance & forced union dues taking half of the take home pay making it impossible to live check to check. Roger is a custodian & makes no where as much as the teachers.
We were crushed by the deception. We lost almost all the food we worked hard for & now don’t know what were going to do. We had a 3 year supply of long term food for our family.
No, to answer the burning question we didn’t get anything back they left state. So much for life long people we thought we knew. So I don’t know if We’ll ever or want to trust again.
It’s said God has a plan for everyone…. This one I don’t care for & still don’t know why since We have always helped others & giving to others all our life.
Be well all,God Bless.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Tricia
August 9, 2011 at 9:27 pm

I too have been having a hard time convincing my family to prepare. Now instead of taking about preparing for anything, I tell them to prepare for things in the near future. We live in a Hurricane prone area and I have finally convinced one daughter and her husband to prepare for a hurricane and what they will do without electricity or water.
WE went thru Hugo in 1989 no water, food or electricity for over a week. Not one person came to help me and I had family that lived on the next street over, they never check on us or offered any help. I learned a hard lesson from that. I was one of the responders for others but barely able to take care of my two girls.
They are now stocking up a little here and there. I give them a few items to help. We discuss what and where to go if necessary. I have even convinced them to make bugout bags for themselves and their two boys.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Rick
August 9, 2011 at 5:01 pm

At this point I’m less worried about HAVING enough food than I am about KEEPING the food I have! Before Hurricane Ike came through the area for about six or seven days people were told to stock up on at least 72 hours food and water for each person in their home. About an hour after the wind stopped blowing and rain stopped falling the crouds on the street screaming that they were hungry began to grow. If the help had not arrived so soon the looting and robbing would have followed about four hours later. I hate the thought of what I will be forced to do to keep my family safe. I hope the people on my jury will be my peers, and not the people that wouldn’t prepare if they had a hundred years to do it.

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-24 Vote -1 Vote +1truly prepared
August 9, 2011 at 6:12 pm

who needs to store food– i’ve got a .45 and enough ammo to just take what i need.

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+9 Vote -1 Vote +1David R.(Canada)
August 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm

Not a good plan.
That’s a good way to die quickly.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Celticwaryor
August 9, 2011 at 10:35 pm

Then you become part of the problem and not the solution! I agree with David R., that’s a good way to get killed, but then again, that would fix YOUR problem of not taking responsibility for yourself and preparing ahead of time. May God have mercy on your soul when you try to implement your plan.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Miss Arleen
August 10, 2011 at 1:04 am

I know an elderly woman who said that if somebody needed food and asked for some she would gladly give it to them. But if anybody tried to TAKE her food, her gun would do the talking. Nevertheless, shame on you “prepared” person for being so willing to hurt others for your selfish gain. Just remember- if you live by the sword…

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1David Morris
August 10, 2011 at 8:51 am

Good luck with that.

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+4 Vote -1 Vote +1Lueder
August 10, 2011 at 9:18 am

I certainly hope you are joking. But in the event that you are not, be forewarned, most that have prepared with the things you plan on taking by force, are also prepared with return fire.

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+2 Vote -1 Vote +1Jenna
August 10, 2011 at 9:41 am

I hope you aren’t truly ignorant enough to believe that is all you need. Lest you forget, we all have guns and ammo, too.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1anna
August 10, 2011 at 10:40 am

I think this blogger is trying to help all of us see that many many think this way!

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Vote -1 Vote +1BimBam
August 10, 2011 at 8:50 pm

That’s a great plan, sir! You’ll be one of the first to die and you won’t have to worry about feeding yourself and we won’t have to worry about getting robbed. We can two birds with one stone. Thank you!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Woolval
August 13, 2011 at 5:51 am

Come on over! I’ve never owned a .45; it would be a nice addition to my collection. And you would be good fertilizer. But I think you’re just being a wise-ass, so I guess I’ll have to go out and buy my own .45. What model do you recommend? LOL

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Vote -1 Vote +1AZPrepareZ
August 15, 2011 at 11:14 am

Ok. This person must have a really dry sense of humor. I don’t think too many of us would be here for any length of time and have this attitude. If that is truly his attitude, he is gone within the first week. We would never even see him as the mobs would get him. The have the same survival plan… The last one with bullets wins.

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Vote -1 Vote +1David R.(Canada)
August 9, 2011 at 6:57 pm

I live in a small village (<600 pop.) and have about 3-6 months of supplies in the house. The problem is, I’m sure my family in the nearby city will turn up on my doorstep to mooch.
Could I turn them away? Probably not.
That’s the weak part of my plan.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1rick
August 9, 2011 at 7:48 pm

Well I think I have enough food( about 2 and a half years of freeze dried and dried food worth, 4 ways to get clean water from at least3 different places besides the 100 gals stored). My problem is the wife is not as serious as I am and definetly does not understand op sec. my plans are to stay in place with several diferent go bags depending on the need to move and the distance and method of travel. I also have a couple of garden packs that can do about an acre each of multiple vegitables. My next purchaces are to get weapons and ammo for hunting and defence. I live in a fairly large bedroom community near a major city, so i have a lot of possible problems regarding security. I also do not have any one other than the wife to help at the moment. There are several family members that could possibly arrive from the area but they are the typical non prepared types no matter what I try to get them to do to prep.I need to meet serious prepers in my area to get a group for support.
besides the above items the wife and I can offer medical support as we are both nurses (I do have a very basic medical kit set up and plan to increase it as time passes). If any one in the West Sac CA area is in this group please contact me at lyran 6 @aol.com with a header of preppers. please forgive the spelling and typing errors. BE PREPARED

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+11 Vote -1 Vote +1Rick
August 9, 2011 at 8:27 pm

To: truely prepared

If all you have is a .45 and some ammo and think you’re prepared, you need to do some rethinking. Most people I know will have an extra .45 and what ever ammo you had on you when you were shot.

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+3 Vote -1 Vote +1Ross
August 9, 2011 at 11:10 pm

truly prepared: Don’t come to my house. I have a .45, a 12 ga and a very effective double four legged alarm system. And my wife shoots too!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1gil
August 10, 2011 at 6:31 am

David,

until i read your books and those similar to them, i thought i was prepared…i live on and work a small farm, but i work in the city. we have pigs, goats, chickens and cows. none of these though figure into my survival plans…i’ve seen migrant workers hop our fence, steal a goat and try to get back to their car.

i fully expect when the poop hits the fan for ALL visible resources on my acreage to be scavenged by my hungry friends, neighbors, and the city dwellers over the hill.

i fully expect to find my cows laying hoofs-up, with a single back quarter missing because that’s all they could carry.

i’m at peace with this though, because i can’t be everywhere all the time, and now my focus is preparing for life after these resources are missing.

most people stock up on food and water and these are key, but don’t forget about toilet paper, salt, and lime. i have enough salt to pickle or salt everything in my freezer in case the power goes out for a length of time. i’m not a huge fan of salted meat, but i’ll be eating.

pick up the book by a.d.livingston on how to cure your own meats. also, if you don’t know how to butcher and animal or bird, now’s the time going into the fall hunting seasons to ask and find out from your friends and acquaintences…most hunters are very willing to share their knowledge.

lastly, i also fully expect that i’ll have friends and relatives showing up on the porch looking for a handout…so, i’ve been stocking up on white rice and pinto beans…these seem to be the cheapest foodstuffs out there, plus you get a carb and protein…1/2 the world survives on this…super bland, but you’ll live.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rifleman37
August 10, 2011 at 8:06 am

PREPAREDNESS is the “name of the game in living”; or such is the conviction of this one with 74 years of hindsight and awareness that for one to ‘cover all of the bases’ is unlikely however so it is a matter of setting PRIORTIES.

PIORITY NUMBER ONE:
Total awareness that one will not ‘survive’ in this life or the life hereafter without belonging ‘lock, stock and barrel’ to JEHOVAH GOD is and always will be “FIRST, LAST AND ALWAYS” on the preparedness list.
The degree of Success in all other areas of living and ‘surviving’, both in this life and in the life hereafter, rest solely on this foundation; whether this is believed or not.

NEXT, in order of importance, is MIND SET.
Awareness must replace the ‘blissfully ignorant’ mindset; that oblivious condition that to be almost universally among our peers; whether it be ‘lost’ in a phone conversation, jogging with earphone and thus mentally totally involved in what is being heard from an iPod or cassette or cd player, or just day dreaming as one goes about daily living.

Friend Col. Jeff Cooper founder of “Gunsite” (USMC, now gone from this realm as are most all of my old friends), alluded to the mindset color code which is, as I remember, as follows:

WHITE being the mind set condition of one oblivious of surroundings, important event and ones environment in generals.
YELLOW the mindset of one who is alert to his environment, be it the immediate surroundings, important current events, possible/potential risk of accident or downright danger.
ORANGE is the mind condition that exist having has been alerted to potential danger of accident, injury or other sources of physical (or financial) harm to self and/or loved ones with the resulting preparation/preparedness determined to successful meet the threat.
RED is the ACTION MINDSET, the condition of being set to take definitive action to successfully address the present threat(s); to be positive and proactive and certain in the ability and means to do so.

HAVING POSITIVELY AND SUCCESSFULLY ADDRESSED THESE MOST IMPORTANT ‘PREREQUISENTS’, then and only then is one in condition to address the ISSUES of SURVIVING IN THE COMING CRISIS; this crisis that can be avoided only by JEHOVAH God’s intervention and in which we survive individually because of HIS INTERVENTION in the lives of each of us, HIS Elect.

So now, predicated on ones having successfully accomplished these two primary, major TASK, can one now consider successfully taking the next steps in preparing for this inevitable facing us in this our nation, the United States of American, ‘courtesy’ of the Adversary and his earthly legions.

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Vote -1 Vote +1DeAnn
August 10, 2011 at 8:19 am

I have been attempting to be prepared but as the supplies in the house become low and money too I seem to go to my stock which isn’t much to speak of anyway. I find mself very unprepared and am not real sure how to actually get there. I can see why giving up would be easier. My compost pile and chickens are about the only thing I feel I have been productive at. I look forward to the coming newsletter. Scared in Texas

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Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 10:27 am

DeAnn, as any Texan (or Southern) girl knows, dried beans can be the foundation of a meal! Add a little rice and you have both protein & carbs. If you are low on funds (as I am… on Soc Sec) buy one pound bags of a variety of different type of beans (Navy, Pinto, Lima, etc). They are cheap and a one pound bag will feed quite a few people…even picky children, if they are hungry enough. When you are low on funds, the goal should be to sustain life, not have your favorite foods on hand.

Dried beans do NOT last forever, so consider them as one of the items you need to rotate.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Charles Sturrock
August 10, 2011 at 8:26 am

I thought it may be a benefit to others to lend my experience in disaster/emergency preparedness, since I do it for a living. I have spent the last number of yearsin Emergency Managment, Homeland Security Planning and Risk Management. I get paid to make sure people and organizations prepare. I currently serve as the Risk Manager and Emergency Management Coordinator for a major university in Texas. We do not prepare for all disasters, but we do prepare for all contingencies. Here’s what I mean. We use an all-hazards approach to disaster preparedness as directed by the National Incident Management System (NIMS) and use Incident Command System (ICS) to manage the incidents. What these teach is to use an all-hazards approach to preparedness. What you will need to survive a major hurricane, will work to help you no matter what the cause of the disaster is, whether it be tornado, terrorism, EMP, etc. Focus on what you need to survive, what services or supplies may either be interrupted, or subject to shortages. Here it is in a nutshell. You need water, food, medication, shelter, and other necessities like clothing, toiletries, and the like. All disasters have a common element and that is that what functions normally in society, may not function at all or insufficienctly. I do not have a terrorism plan, a tornado plan, a hurricane plan, and so on, I have one disaster plan, which focuses on the common elements of all disasters. Most of all, I seek wisdom from God for without wisdom, it matters little what you do, for it will surely fail without wisdom. A major Mess Hits the Fan Event may be the salvation of this nation. When we get back to friend helping friend, family helping family, churches helping church members, and communities helping each other, we just may re-discover what life is all about. It’s not about material posessions it’s about people, and always has been, and always will be.

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Vote -1 Vote +1jim
August 10, 2011 at 8:42 am

My thoughts simply are , You can’t be prepared enough ! When you think you got ” it think again “. There is always something new or more to add to the pile. Preparation is an ongoing thing.This is also a mental excercise for different events. It take time & money with everyone, don’t feel like it’s overwhelming. Break it down to small steps for success.I’ve seen many articles on this & the biggest one most people miss is bar soap.During the time of a crisis is no time for an infection, cheap,compact & it make great trading material.Good luck to everyone in the days ahead & may God bless you with your family.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Shannon
August 10, 2011 at 8:47 am

Hi folks,
I’m in a funny predicament and would like to hear what other preppers have to say…my partner and I have been living in Oregon with our garden, food storage, etc. and now find ourselves needing to go to the big city (Los Angeles…gasp!) to be where his clients are to make some cash while it’s still possible to do that (and while it still has value). We’re putting everything in storage, driving with a packed car and housesitting in an apt. in the middle of LA for 4 months with the plan to return before Xmas. With all the chaos seeming to be accelerating, how would you prepare for this? What should we bring? Do we prepare an evacuation route out of the city? I’m becoming increasingly nervous about going but we’re committed and we need the money. Any advice would be welcome. Thank you!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jenna
August 10, 2011 at 9:50 am

Definately have several routes out of the city! Possible stopping points along the way to restock or refuel. ( friends/family) Keep your vehicle emergency kit stocked (and out of sight), gas tank full and have your bug out bags at the ready wherever you are.

God bless us all.

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Vote -1 Vote +1krys
August 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm

Shannon, get pvc pipes & caps, they come in all sizes, don’t forget the prep & glue for it. You can store anything in them & bury them away from your place to keep alot of things safe. Plant a bush or something on top as a marker. Rocks make a good marker too.

Check a plumber, electrician or people remodeling they often have extra pieces they toss or give away. We go dumpster diving & find a lot of useful things that saves money. We ask the manager 1st in most places so we don’t get arrested for anything. Tell them it’s a school project for kids, they always like to help & most will donate other things as a write off for taxes.
Write on them w/a perminate marker so you know whats in them. Make a list or map so if you forget you have something to fall back on. Put it in a baggie & a safe place only you & your partener knows, again away from your house. In a shed or barn in a wall or under a floor board. Water proof ink is also a good thing to use so it doesn’t fade or smudge. Make a couple of copies to hide in case you can’t get to one.
Just be calm & plan your routes not used by everyone else & take the routes so you know them & who or whats in the routes. Don’t forget to time them so have a general idea how long each trip is. Hope this helps you & others.
God Bless Preppers.

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Vote -1 Vote +1aileen Milton
August 10, 2011 at 8:47 am

Hi David,
I have written several times about our upcoming Fl State Tea Party Convention…. Nov 4-6 in Daytona Beach, FL.
Yes it is mostly about America and the 2012 election …but we will also have over 65+ vendor booths.
But we are expected to have over 3200 attendees and other leaders from Tea party and 912 groups. But these leaders need to help their groups to be survivors beyond the 2012 election.

I believe we need your type of information on display at the convention…. A vendor booth is only $250. for the 3 days…. I hope you will consider checking out the website and contact me for further information. Thank you.
Aileen Milton
Tri-County Tea Party Member and Vendor Booth Chairman, Volunteer

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Vote -1 Vote +1Warren Daniels
August 10, 2011 at 8:56 am

I get 50 MPG on my Honda Insight. If a person drives 20 K per year with a 17 MPG car at $3.69 per gallon, that is 1176 gallons for a cost of $4341. At 50 mpg the cost is $1476 for a savings of $2865 per year. That is $8595 over three years if gasoline stays at $3.69 per gallon. Like I said, DO THE MATH!

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Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 10:39 am

Warren, while I agree with the purchase of hybrid’s (my daugher has a Prius) you might want to check what it costs to replace your battery. My daughter has….when it goes out it will cost her $800 to replace it (and that was 1 1/2 yrs ago that she checked so I’m sure the price will go up).

That said, with a large power inverter, a Prius can power items in a house, as proved by a man, up North, when they had a blizzard and no electricity. If a hybrid isn’t within a person’s means, a Hyundai is also a good choice. I have a 2008 that gets 28 mpg in town, 33 mpg on the highway (almost 36 if A/C isn’t running) and I could carry at least 6 people (if needed) and it has a very large trunk for clothing & supplies.

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Vote -1 Vote +1BimBam
August 10, 2011 at 8:56 pm

Seems you forgot the cost of death or being maimed from being in a small car. How much is your health worth? YOU do the math!

I did and found my life is PRICELESS!!!

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Keith_Indy
August 10, 2011 at 9:10 am

For anyone on a budget, there are still ways to build up your stock of food stuff.

One place you can find cheap dry goods is the Mormon Home Storage Centers http://www.providentliving.org/content/display/0,11666,7550-1-4066-1,00.html If you are anywhere close to them, for not much money, and your labor, you can have long term food to add to your pantry.

I’ve always found Back Woods Home magazine to be a great resource for low cost self-reliance tips. Here’s one such article, http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/hagan59.html and here’s an index to their online articles http://www.backwoodshome.com/article_index.html

Start small if you’re on a budget. Start with the goal of having say 10 days of extra food & water on hand. Then save your money until you can afford the next 10 days, etc…

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Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 10:42 am

Thanks so much for the link to their centers…the one in Austin, TX is literally almost in my back yard!

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Vote -1 Vote +1Squireblu
August 10, 2011 at 9:11 am

Good information. Like many others here I have been viewed as less than rational by wanting to be prepared. Living in FL you have to be prepared so it is not been to hard to bring my family with me in my thinking….but sometime I feel like I should get a hair shirt. Prepare for the worse, hope for the best and be a lifeboat for your family.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Jeanne
August 10, 2011 at 9:13 am

As a mum who gave birth 2 months early to Siamese Twins, you are NEVER prepared. I was expecting a wonderful birth, 4 year old was excited about having a little sister/brother. I went into labor two months early, as I was separated from bio-father I was forced to use federal assistance. They do NOT inform you of anything. Doc knew something was wrong with pregnancy at 4th month. I find out my 5 DAY in LABOR!

I was told to prepare for their death. One died at birth, the other had 5 surgeries before her 8th month and will be 19 in Sept. Was told she wouldn’t see 3 years old.

I know from experience you cannot plan for anything, but you can just prepare the best you can and survive. Everything happens for a reason and you WILL survive if you have a POSITIVE attitude and don’t let the bastards keep you down!

Just my personal experience.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Sue
August 10, 2011 at 9:29 am

I have enjoyed so much all the comments and good ideas. Sarah I would love to get my hands on an old cook stove, but otherwise we have a grill, when that runs out of gas and if you can’t get more, then we have a coleman camping stove and after that a fire pit to cook on.
We live in a rural area so we plan on staying in place, with or without electricity. A tornado
would be our only worry or thugs up to no good, but we have protection in our home with ammo. God Bless to all of you. Keep up the great ideas.

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Vote -1 Vote +1dans-in-co
August 10, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Check on YouTube for a solar satellite cooker. Starts cardboard on fire in seconds. Other videos show lots of items cooking. I have built one, but haven’t been able to
find a business that will chrome plate it for durability.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1texastwin827
August 10, 2011 at 10:02 am

I know this may sound silly (it’s a “woman thing”), however, I sew so I tend to think about the “what if” this is long term instead of short term. You need at the least, a basic sewing kit, because you have no idea how long your clothes will need to last you or what “modifications” you might need to make to them.

As an example, those of us in TX rarely get winter days that are colder than a 55-60 degree high, however, should we have to leave for a colder climate, we would need to be able to modify our clothing. For that fact, we may end up needing to be able to make our own clothing. For that reason, any piece of clothing that I deem is not fit to be donated, I remove the buttons and zippers, for future use. I keep a big supply of thread and while my sewing machine is electric (and portable) I could manually operate it to sew on it rather than resorting to hand sewing.

Since fabric is now more expensive than what it costs to buy clothing (because it’s made in a foreign country), if I see a large piece of clothing at a garage sale (such as XXL men’s shirts or women’s dresses with big skirts) I will buy some of them, wash and store them. Sheets are also good as they can be used for so many things (makeshift tent, curtains, clothing & to repair things such as comforters, coats, etc). While I don’t have a huge supply (fits in one small flat box), I do have enough that I could make, modify or repair almost anything, if the need arose (might not be pretty but it would be durable :-) ).

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1DEE
August 10, 2011 at 10:39 am

David
Took your course about a year ago, and so glad I did. I’ve been a prepper for over 10 years but your course helped me hone my skills & mindset. Each day is becoming more scary than yesterday. Sooo many people have their heads in the sand. Totally unaware of the economic instability, future lack of food due to failing crops, and water shortages from droughts. There have been more riots in various countries you can’t even count them on two hands. England is in chaos right now. Young punks looking for an excuse to loot, and destroy property. It’s just a matter of time for that mentality to cross “the pond” and send our country into a battleground. Recent history has shown Americans behave badly when they riot for a cause. If the government takes away the entitlements for all of our lazy citizens, or we have food shortages in our country things will turn ugly fast! Too many Americans feel that the government is REQUIRED to take care of them, ex.Katrina. I feel like I’m viewing “the perfect storm”, waiting for TSTHTF. Looking forward to your 40 day plan!! Thanks Dave.

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Vote -1 Vote +1Darryl N. Portra
August 10, 2011 at 12:34 pm

excellent ideas in the forum david as always-glad i took your course-with recent events of flash mob violence here in the us-hopefully it will serve to wake people up. all the best,darryl

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1Chief two belly
August 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm

I’ve got the food and water supplies for a year but,
I have two boys that had kidney transplants and require
Hand full of meds 3 times a day.
I only have a two month supply for these boys and don’t know
what i’m going to do when the crap hits the fan.
Purchasing these meds will cost $300-$400 a day.
I can’t do it.
Anybody got a answer for this?
Love this sight.
Chief

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1BimBam
August 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm

If BOTH boys had kidney transplant you better figure out fast why and how it happened and work from there.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1J. Blair
August 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm

For 5 years, I’ve been advising folk to buy canned veggies when on sale. I’ve also been recommending to rinse out and fill empty milk jugs with water. That costs nothing. A gas grill will come in handy, and if gasoline is available, a modest output generator can help to keep refrigeration going and perhaps a small space heater. Whether a crisis or not, this president hussein’s war on coal through EPA regulation is going to cause rolling brownouts and blackouts this winter, as he will be blaming Bush or Big Coal.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1john
August 10, 2011 at 7:23 pm

this is the flash point the rioting in the england and the collapse of the stock market around the world and if you are not prepared to some degree you are for a lack of a better word in deep crap and you will need to step up the game of prepardness of your self and you r family or you will defitley be the one to blame to say the truth its been ten years since 9/11 and six years since katrina and if your plan is not ready to survive anthing before 2012 of the coming electomatic storm from the sun you parden my bluntness you both stupid and lazy and get what you deserve from the criminals and maraders.

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+1 Vote -1 Vote +1DEE
August 11, 2011 at 9:20 am

RIGHT ON JOHN!!

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Vote -1 Vote +1perry
August 12, 2011 at 5:41 am

john i have a pacemaker and i am prepared but if the storms come the eletromagnetic field will kill me anyway

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Vote -1 Vote +1maccyb25
August 12, 2011 at 9:46 am

Hi all,
I live in Liverpool in England, UK, where we too have had riots. It has made me realise how woefully unprepared I am and how easily my property could have been looted. I am rapidly absorbing all the info. As we can’t bear arms in UK, i am now looking at taking defence classes.
All the advice is great, keep it coming everyone.

Regards,

M

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Vote -1 Vote +1Armed Citizen
August 15, 2011 at 3:26 pm

The best defense is a “shock and awe” offense- TOTAL AND FINAL FURIOUS ATTACK. A great film to watch is “Wicker Man” with Dustin Hoffman

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Vote -1 Vote +1Armed Citizen
August 15, 2011 at 3:34 pm

The film is “Straw Dogs” 1971 with Dustin Hoffman (my mistake) not “Wicker Man”

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